From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Reitter Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs,gmane.emacs.pretest.bugs Subject: bug#3302: Frame deletion with 'force fails Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 22:41:43 -0400 Message-ID: <66CADE2D-3FA6-4467-BA39-AB7BC0DF6767@gmail.com> References: Reply-To: David Reitter , 3302@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary=Apple-Mail-17-166815467; micalg=sha1; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature" X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1242615138 18726 80.91.229.12 (18 May 2009 02:52:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 02:52:18 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org, 3302@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon May 18 04:52:11 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1M5sxW-0005cK-Bt for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 18 May 2009 04:52:11 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38009 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1M5sxV-000219-Sd for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 17 May 2009 22:52:09 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1M5sxQ-00020s-MU for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 17 May 2009 22:52:04 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1M5sxM-00020M-60 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 17 May 2009 22:52:04 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=51409 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1M5sxM-00020H-2A for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 17 May 2009 22:52:00 -0400 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu ([138.23.92.77]:47801) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1M5sxL-0006Fe-CS for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 17 May 2009 22:51:59 -0400 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu (rzlab.ucr.edu [127.0.0.1]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n4I2pu16007346; Sun, 17 May 2009 19:51:56 -0700 Original-Received: (from debbugs@localhost) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id n4I2o5gT006298; Sun, 17 May 2009 19:50:05 -0700 X-Loop: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com Resent-From: David Reitter Resent-To: bug-submit-list@donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs Resent-Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 02:50:05 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com X-Emacs-PR-Message: followup 3302 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 3302-submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B3302.12426145134876 (code B ref 3302); Mon, 18 May 2009 02:50:05 +0000 Original-Received: (at 3302) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 18 May 2009 02:41:53 +0000 X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. 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(pool-71-162-19-47.pitbpa.east.verizon.net [71.162.19.47]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 10sm477710eyd.22.2009.05.17.19.41.46 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 17 May 2009 19:41:47 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) Resent-Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 22:52:04 -0400 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:27950 gmane.emacs.pretest.bugs:24453 Archived-At: --Apple-Mail-17-166815467 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On May 17, 2009, at 4:31 PM, Stefan Monnier wrote: >> In an Emacs -Q (recent CVS, NS port), doing the following right after >> startup: > >> (delete-frame (selected-frame) t) > >> will lead to an "Attempt to delete the only frame" error. This seems >> needless in non-X/non-Windows environments. > > I don't see the relationship with X/Window environments. > What behavior woulod you like to see? Would you like Emacs to exit in > this case? Or should it stick around until someone kills it? Maybe I shouldn't have said non-X - I assumed that you couldn't receive events without a frame in X. Maybe that's wrong. The behavior would be that the application sticks around, may open a new frame (even automatically, when the minibuffer is used) when user interaction requires it. After all, the menu bar may still be visible (doesn't need a frame). I looked some more at the code (mainly by enabling frame deletion in this case), and because we expect there to be a selected frame pretty much at all times, I don't think this can be fixed. (But I would hope I'm wrong.) Does Emacs in daemon mode run with a special event loop? I'd be happy for this to be closed as a "wontfix" bug, or if the delete-frame doc string was improved. --Apple-Mail-17-166815467 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=smime.p7s Content-Type: application/pkcs7-signature; name=smime.p7s Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 MIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAqCAMIACAQExCzAJBgUrDgMCGgUAMIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAQAAoIIFxDCCAn0w ggHmoAMCAQICED6shx13jEDrq0eL8FRq5ykwDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEFBQAwYjELMAkGA1UEBhMCWkEx JTAjBgNVBAoTHFRoYXd0ZSBDb25zdWx0aW5nIChQdHkpIEx0ZC4xLDAqBgNVBAMTI1RoYXd0ZSBQ ZXJzb25hbCBGcmVlbWFpbCBJc3N1aW5nIENBMB4XDTA4MTIwOTAyMDgwMVoXDTA5MTIwOTAyMDgw MVowYjEQMA4GA1UEBBMHUmVpdHRlcjEOMAwGA1UEKhMFRGF2aWQxFjAUBgNVBAMTDURhdmlkIFJl aXR0ZXIxJjAkBgkqhkiG9w0BCQEWF2RhdmlkLnJlaXR0ZXJAZ21haWwuY29tMIGfMA0GCSqGSIb3 DQEBAQUAA4GNADCBiQKBgQDOdo6kAwlkBxUb8dj4saMbYg4SVng8CUePFn3cjjWrakBTbUVa4Z0n wlUxr7AitEeKhBy5nGhu96+jKUPrCwYNRCZ0l2ovvuGq4z1m1nZ5/c8WvFlVhieuxXMUfmb/O7D3 IojoX6iS8n5MNNU2IWNNT/AD3vOl6DKgOtOw4J9y+QIDAQABozQwMjAiBgNVHREEGzAZgRdkYXZp ZC5yZWl0dGVyQGdtYWlsLmNvbTAMBgNVHRMBAf8EAjAAMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBBQUAA4GBAIjI8yEW wkiEfA9PMgpjnD6KyCXT0iZjHhW2PkR53yZZLUoTboHnKgsFwYp/gzzIL8J5cvZaRUyMUzXDufPP dRmxxCs2jXXLDD/8bvdvOuMzqgYoFA73fAfsC8S6qUL1PayZ90J8CZHNhDwqWqOA56T+DdKUegJT sqoHKh6OnypTMIIDPzCCAqigAwIBAgIBDTANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQUFADCB0TELMAkGA1UEBhMCWkEx FTATBgNVBAgTDFdlc3Rlcm4gQ2FwZTESMBAGA1UEBxMJQ2FwZSBUb3duMRowGAYDVQQKExFUaGF3 dGUgQ29uc3VsdGluZzEoMCYGA1UECxMfQ2VydGlmaWNhdGlvbiBTZXJ2aWNlcyBEaXZpc2lvbjEk MCIGA1UEAxMbVGhhd3RlIFBlcnNvbmFsIEZyZWVtYWlsIENBMSswKQYJKoZIhvcNAQkBFhxwZXJz b25hbC1mcmVlbWFpbEB0aGF3dGUuY29tMB4XDTAzMDcxNzAwMDAwMFoXDTEzMDcxNjIzNTk1OVow YjELMAkGA1UEBhMCWkExJTAjBgNVBAoTHFRoYXd0ZSBDb25zdWx0aW5nIChQdHkpIEx0ZC4xLDAq BgNVBAMTI1RoYXd0ZSBQZXJzb25hbCBGcmVlbWFpbCBJc3N1aW5nIENBMIGfMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEB AQUAA4GNADCBiQKBgQDEpjxVc1X7TrnKmVoeaMB1BHCd3+n/ox7svc31W/Iadr1/DDph8r9RzgHU 5VAKMNcCY1osiRVwjt3J8CuFWqo/cVbLrzwLB+fxH5E2JCoTzyvV84J3PQO+K/67GD4Hv0CAAmTX p6a7n2XRxSpUhQ9IBH+nttE8YQRAHmQZcmC3+wIDAQABo4GUMIGRMBIGA1UdEwEB/wQIMAYBAf8C AQAwQwYDVR0fBDwwOjA4oDagNIYyaHR0cDovL2NybC50aGF3dGUuY29tL1RoYXd0ZVBlcnNvbmFs RnJlZW1haWxDQS5jcmwwCwYDVR0PBAQDAgEGMCkGA1UdEQQiMCCkHjAcMRowGAYDVQQDExFQcml2 YXRlTGFiZWwyLTEzODANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQUFAAOBgQBIjNFQg+oLLswNo2asZw9/r6y+whehQ5aU nX9MIbj4Nh+qLZ82L8D0HFAgk3A8/a3hYWLD2ToZfoSxmRsAxRoLgnSeJVCUYsfbJ3FXJY3dqZw5 jowgT2Vfldr394fWxghOrvbqNOUQGls1TXfjViF4gtwhGTXeJLHTHUb/XV9lTzGCAo8wggKLAgEB MHYwYjELMAkGA1UEBhMCWkExJTAjBgNVBAoTHFRoYXd0ZSBDb25zdWx0aW5nIChQdHkpIEx0ZC4x LDAqBgNVBAMTI1RoYXd0ZSBQZXJzb25hbCBGcmVlbWFpbCBJc3N1aW5nIENBAhA+rIcdd4xA66tH i/BUaucpMAkGBSsOAwIaBQCgggFvMBgGCSqGSIb3DQEJAzELBgkqhkiG9w0BBwEwHAYJKoZIhvcN AQkFMQ8XDTA5MDUxODAyNDE0NFowIwYJKoZIhvcNAQkEMRYEFFWN8IS0b4jp3SWpxkgkTPxSbdrU MIGFBgkrBgEEAYI3EAQxeDB2MGIxCzAJBgNVBAYTAlpBMSUwIwYDVQQKExxUaGF3dGUgQ29uc3Vs dGluZyAoUHR5KSBMdGQuMSwwKgYDVQQDEyNUaGF3dGUgUGVyc29uYWwgRnJlZW1haWwgSXNzdWlu ZyBDQQIQPqyHHXeMQOurR4vwVGrnKTCBhwYLKoZIhvcNAQkQAgsxeKB2MGIxCzAJBgNVBAYTAlpB MSUwIwYDVQQKExxUaGF3dGUgQ29uc3VsdGluZyAoUHR5KSBMdGQuMSwwKgYDVQQDEyNUaGF3dGUg UGVyc29uYWwgRnJlZW1haWwgSXNzdWluZyBDQQIQPqyHHXeMQOurR4vwVGrnKTANBgkqhkiG9w0B AQEFAASBgIKhmAtJAUhG9O6vu3j0Kg1w54lpXI0/JTdCrI+QPmJt+8ZkVyRu6hmBecC62V3aaQTn jfdtiVGp/zxb8tKNS6ud15yUVbDzjE/2WnpWFlg6CUSevDO4/4tGkJwWy+eO2CTAakLVvdRecnyG 0SO8FWbQyW5pslUB3lVGXFK49k80AAAAAAAA --Apple-Mail-17-166815467--