From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Eli Zaretskii" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.xemacs.beta,gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs setup assistants Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 19:57:59 +0200 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Message-ID: <6654-Fri21May2004195758+0300-eliz@gnu.org> References: <87zn847n6a.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <1438-Thu20May2004203119+0300-eliz@gnu.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1085160188 30378 80.91.224.253 (21 May 2004 17:23:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 17:23:08 +0000 (UTC) Cc: juri@jurta.org, xemacs-beta@xemacs.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Fri May 21 19:22:59 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BRDjX-0008MS-00 for ; Fri, 21 May 2004 19:22:59 +0200 Original-Received: from gwyn.tux.org ([199.184.165.135]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BRDjW-0005PL-00 for ; Fri, 21 May 2004 19:22:59 +0200 Original-Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id i4LHGJs27111; Fri, 21 May 2004 13:16:19 -0400 Original-Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id i4LHFuA26846 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Fri, 21 May 2004 13:15:56 -0400 Original-Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id i4LHFrN26795 for turnbull@tux.org; Fri, 21 May 2004 13:15:53 -0400 Original-Received: from aragorn.inter.net.il (aragorn.inter.net.il [192.114.186.23]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id i4LHFns26725 for ; Fri, 21 May 2004 13:15:50 -0400 Original-Received: from zaretski (pns03-194-251.inter.net.il [80.230.194.251]) by aragorn.inter.net.il (MOS 3.4.6-GR) with ESMTP id CXR10322; Fri, 21 May 2004 19:59:28 +0300 (IDT) Original-To: David Kastrup X-Mailer: emacs 21.3.50 (via feedmail 8 I) and Blat ver 1.8.9 In-reply-to: (message from David Kastrup on 20 May 2004 22:57:08 +0200) X-XEmacs-List: beta Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.xemacs.beta:14782 gmane.emacs.devel:23820 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:23820 > From: David Kastrup > Date: 20 May 2004 22:57:08 +0200 > > But those text fragments would have to appear between the variables > in question. And explanatory texts are more effective if you can > highlight stuff, include cross references to the manual and so on. Agreed. But I think that Customize and Emacs widgets already provide a significant portion of the required functionality to do that. > If this language also makes it possible to create widgets and active > code, that would be an advantage. We would probably want to > preprocess this super-Texinfo before turning it into a printed or > HTML version: it would be nice if an Emacs-internal makeinfo could > just show the the available menus and menu structure by calling them > by name and keymap, for example. I fear that extending Texinfo along these lines would be much more difficult than extending Customzie and/or widget.