From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: Andrew Hyatt <ahyatt@gmail.com>
Cc: johnw@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org,
Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>,
monnier@iro.umontreal.ca
Subject: RE: A proposal for removing obsolete packages
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2016 18:37:33 -0800 (PST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <665240dc-3deb-4c7a-8a5e-192a3e1db1fb@default> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m2zivu4pq5.fsf@gmail.com>
> > (Isearch could perhaps be modified to automatically open
> > `customize-apropos*' entries that have search hits, instead of
> > ignoring text in closed entries. But that's not the case today.)
...
> > An improvement to `list-options' could be to have it list only
> > matches for some apropos input. But even now by listing all
> > options it can be useful.
> >
> > If the `customize-apropos*' commands were improved to show
> > what `list-options' shows (searchable full doc strings and
> > current values) then `customize-apropos-options' might provide
> > a replacement for `list-options'. But that's not yet the case.
>
> Everything you wrote above is pretty reasonable, and as far as I can
> tell, correct. Thanks for the explanation.
>
> But this last paragraph seems wrong - if I run, for example,
> (customize-apropos-options "beyond.*fill"), I see customize option for
> 2c-beyond-fill-column, complete with the value I've set and the
> docstring, all easily searchable.
With `emacs -q' in Emacs 24.5 or the latest Emacs 25 binary I have
(which is quite old now) I get:
(error "No customizable options matching beyond.*fill")
But yes, if there is only one option that matches the pattern then
the doc string is opened (shown completely). If there is more
than one (a more typical case for use of an apropos command) then
the details are closed, showing only the first line of the doc
string and not showing the value.
> However, the functionality that appears missing to me is either to be
> able to additionally search by docstring, or showing all options
> (basically, (customize-apropos-options ".*") should work quickly and
> give something useful, neither of which is true for me today.
Yes. Either it should be improved as suggested or `list-options'
should be retained (IMO). (And `list-options' could itself be
improved as I indicated, so that it does apropos matching.)
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-01-25 2:37 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 128+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-01-11 3:09 A proposal for removing obsolete packages Andrew Hyatt
2016-01-11 14:41 ` Phillip Lord
2016-01-11 15:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-12 4:24 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-01-19 5:28 ` John Wiegley
2016-01-20 2:54 ` Richard Stallman
2016-01-20 7:25 ` John Wiegley
2016-01-20 17:05 ` Andrew Hyatt
2016-01-20 17:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-20 19:52 ` John Wiegley
2016-01-20 20:38 ` Andrés Ramírez
2016-01-20 20:46 ` John Wiegley
2016-01-20 20:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-20 21:03 ` Andrés Ramírez
2016-01-21 3:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-23 21:22 ` Andrew Hyatt
2016-01-21 3:02 ` Richard Stallman
2016-01-23 21:15 ` Andrew Hyatt
2016-01-23 22:03 ` Drew Adams
2016-01-24 1:02 ` Andrew Hyatt
2016-01-24 1:08 ` Andrew Hyatt
2016-01-24 1:56 ` Drew Adams
2016-01-24 21:44 ` Andrew Hyatt
2016-01-25 2:37 ` Drew Adams [this message]
2016-01-25 1:42 ` Richard Stallman
2016-01-25 4:41 ` Andrew Hyatt
2016-01-25 15:37 ` Entering Unicode characters Richard Stallman
2016-01-25 16:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-25 17:20 ` Vivek Dasmohapatra
2016-01-25 17:51 ` Teemu Likonen
2016-01-25 20:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-26 1:24 ` Vivek Dasmohapatra
2016-01-26 3:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-25 18:59 ` Marcin Borkowski
2016-01-25 19:28 ` Drew Adams
2016-01-26 8:38 ` Oleh Krehel
2016-01-25 21:36 ` Tianxiang Xiong
2016-01-25 22:17 ` Drew Adams
2016-01-25 22:26 ` Tianxiang Xiong
2016-01-26 9:39 ` Richard Stallman
2016-01-26 10:55 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2016-01-26 14:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-26 14:54 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-01-26 21:41 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2016-01-27 3:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-27 6:01 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2016-01-28 23:16 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2016-01-29 8:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-29 15:51 ` handa
2016-01-29 16:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-29 16:24 ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-01-30 3:03 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2016-01-30 7:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-30 7:36 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2016-01-30 7:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-30 12:16 ` handa
2016-01-30 13:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-27 0:47 ` Richard Stallman
2016-01-26 11:31 ` Yuri Khan
2016-01-27 0:46 ` Richard Stallman
2016-01-26 12:40 ` Marcin Borkowski
2016-01-26 15:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-27 0:47 ` Richard Stallman
2016-01-26 17:08 ` Tianxiang Xiong
2016-01-26 17:37 ` Drew Adams
2016-01-26 18:08 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-01-26 18:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-06 11:56 ` Helmut Eller
2016-02-06 12:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-06 13:59 ` Helmut Eller
2016-02-06 14:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-12 11:20 ` Helmut Eller
2016-02-07 18:33 ` Richard Stallman
2016-02-07 18:42 ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-02-08 14:15 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-02-08 14:25 ` Andreas Schwab
2016-02-09 12:14 ` Richard Stallman
2016-02-09 17:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-10 0:12 ` Richard Stallman
2016-02-10 17:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-11 18:19 ` Richard Stallman
2016-02-07 22:02 ` John Wiegley
2016-02-08 13:02 ` Richard Stallman
2016-02-08 17:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-09 12:14 ` Richard Stallman
2016-02-09 13:26 ` Dale Snell
2016-02-10 0:11 ` Richard Stallman
2016-02-09 17:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-09 6:01 ` Alexis
2016-02-09 15:21 ` Drew Adams
2016-02-10 0:11 ` Richard Stallman
2016-02-10 1:16 ` Alexis
2016-02-10 14:16 ` Richard Stallman
2016-02-11 18:59 ` John Wiegley
[not found] ` <<E1aTINY-0007Rg-IA@fencepost.gnu.org>
2016-02-10 2:07 ` Drew Adams
2016-02-10 4:14 ` Elias Mårtenson
2016-02-10 14:15 ` Richard Stallman
2016-02-10 0:08 ` Richard Stallman
2016-02-10 4:17 ` Jose E. Marchesi
2016-02-08 14:18 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-02-12 11:32 ` Helmut Eller
2016-02-13 15:32 ` Richard Stallman
[not found] ` <<E1aO05V-0007eR-Kw@fencepost.gnu.org>
2016-01-26 16:58 ` Drew Adams
2016-01-25 13:01 ` A proposal for removing obsolete packages Stefan Monnier
2016-01-26 9:36 ` Richard Stallman
2016-01-26 10:30 ` Andreas Schwab
2016-01-27 0:46 ` Richard Stallman
2016-01-27 1:03 ` Alexis
2016-01-27 22:53 ` Richard Stallman
2016-01-27 8:41 ` Andreas Schwab
2016-01-25 15:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
[not found] ` <<m2a8nu46ff.fsf@gmail.com>
[not found] ` <<E1aNjCP-0004Ya-Si@fencepost.gnu.org>
2016-01-25 16:04 ` Entering Unicode characters Drew Adams
2016-01-25 16:18 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-01-26 16:43 ` A proposal for removing obsolete packages John Wiegley
2016-01-26 17:32 ` John Wiegley
2016-02-03 4:45 ` Andrew Hyatt
2016-01-12 5:25 ` Andrew Hyatt
2016-01-12 4:07 ` Richard Stallman
2016-01-12 5:25 ` Andrew Hyatt
2016-01-12 21:49 ` Richard Stallman
2016-01-14 5:19 ` Andrew Hyatt
2016-01-17 22:53 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-01-14 23:09 ` Phillip Lord
2016-01-16 4:13 ` Andrew Hyatt
2016-01-16 19:10 ` Richard Stallman
2016-01-18 18:47 ` Andrew Hyatt
2016-01-19 13:51 ` Richard Stallman
2016-01-19 14:54 ` Phillip Lord
[not found] <<m28u3wak2g.fsf@gmail.com>
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