From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Jan D." Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs Explorer? Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 17:26:17 +0200 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <6623507A-9471-11D8-93C6-000D93505B76@swipnet.se> References: <6999B5E2-8EB3-11D8-9A7F-000D93505B76@swipnet.se> <8E554882-9453-11D8-A05E-000D93505B76@swipnet.se> <20040422123356.GA28041@fencepost> <4087D3A0.2080404@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v613) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1082652106 8119 80.91.224.253 (22 Apr 2004 16:41:46 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 16:41:46 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, rms@gnu.org, drew.adams@oracle.com, Miles Bader Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Thu Apr 22 18:41:24 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BGhGO-0000Vl-00 for ; Thu, 22 Apr 2004 18:41:24 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BGhGN-0003Oy-00 for ; Thu, 22 Apr 2004 18:41:23 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1BGh1z-0000vO-JY for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Thu, 22 Apr 2004 12:26:31 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.30) id 1BGglJ-00050m-TF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 22 Apr 2004 12:09:17 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.30) id 1BGggj-0003X1-VH for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 22 Apr 2004 12:04:53 -0400 Original-Received: from [195.54.107.70] (helo=mxfep01.bredband.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1BGg61-00040E-Qd; Thu, 22 Apr 2004 11:26:37 -0400 Original-Received: from coolsville.localdomain ([213.112.109.35] [213.112.109.35]) by mxfep01.bredband.com with ESMTP id <20040422152636.FGLT9130.mxfep01.bredband.com@coolsville.localdomain>; Thu, 22 Apr 2004 17:26:36 +0200 In-Reply-To: <4087D3A0.2080404@gnu.org> Original-To: Jason Rumney X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.613) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:22033 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:22033 > > I'd say its more important that this type of D&D can be turned off. > Either people are used to doing things this way, with all its faults, > or they are not, and don't want this feature. Agreed. > >> This is probably the reason why Motif/CDE uses mouse-2 to drag. No >> risk of starting a drag when an ordinary click with mouse-1 was >> intended. > > We could adopt that convention, but then it would only work within > Emacs, at least on Windows and I presume GTK, Qt and Mac, since the > system idea of dragging would be different than Emacs idea. The way you start the drag (i.e. mouse-1, shift-mouse-1, mouse-2 e.t.c.) usually does not matter at all, at least in X. I would be surprised if other systems had this limitation. Jan D.