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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:309383 Archived-At: On 28/08/2023 03:21, Po Lu wrote: > Dmitry Gutov writes: > >> Yeah, a program written in C/C++/Rust which contains an interpreter >> (and multiple jit's) for a dynamic programming language and has most >> of its interface written in it, supports user extensions in the same >> language, support display of arbitrary files and has several related >> but different mechanisms for guiding the visuals and the layout of >> said display. It also supports bidi. > > Using Bidi implementations which already exist, implementing standards > already specified, and applying foreknowledge acquired through the > development of other implementations of those standards, correct? Something that we'd happily do as well, wouldn't we? > When was the last time Firefox concerned itself with DPMI memory > extenders? The disparate means of obtaining boot times on different > Unix and Microsoft systems? File ACLs, SELinux, D-Bus, inode > notifications, ELF, xcoff, the 9k800 aout? Sorry if I'm not up-to-date with each and every component, but Firefox devs surely have to deal with SELinux, D-Bus, and executable formats. JavaScript also has a filesystem access API. > The scale and rapid development that is mandatory for a functioning web > browser sounds impressive, but is ultimately narrow in scope. Emacs's > requirements are less imposing but greater in number, ... > which compounded > by a group of active developers whose number pales in comparison to that > of Firefox, means that reducing the strain on any one of them is an > overriding objective. Even if that were the case, the plan breaks as soon as we run out of existing active developers, if we fail to recruit enough new ones.