From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#31231: Symbol search broken in NEWS and ChangeLogs Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2018 06:45:54 +0300 Message-ID: <65987D9C-DDE5-49C2-B036-326B4CB7E49C@gnu.org> References: <87604kqpji.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83vacjw4dn.fsf@gnu.org> <87y3he7vn4.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83sh7mwt2u.fsf@gnu.org> <8736zlznjq.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83a7ttwcxx.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1524541505 12009 195.159.176.226 (24 Apr 2018 03:45:05 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2018 03:45:05 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: K-9 Mail for Android Cc: 31231@debbugs.gnu.org To: Juri Linkov Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Apr 24 05:45:01 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fAot3-0002z1-8i for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 24 Apr 2018 05:45:01 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56356 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fAov9-00041Y-VC for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 23 Apr 2018 23:47:11 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:39699) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fAov3-00041T-Nw for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 23 Apr 2018 23:47:06 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fAov0-00076o-KM for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 23 Apr 2018 23:47:05 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:57925) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fAov0-00076L-Gd for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 23 Apr 2018 23:47:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fAov0-0005xj-AB for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 23 Apr 2018 23:47:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2018 03:47:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 31231 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 31231-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B31231.152454157522853 (code B ref 31231); Tue, 24 Apr 2018 03:47:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 31231) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Apr 2018 03:46:15 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37589 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fAouF-0005wX-0u for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 23 Apr 2018 23:46:15 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:48607) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fAouC-0005wJ-4H for 31231@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 23 Apr 2018 23:46:12 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fAou5-0006M6-U7 for 31231@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 23 Apr 2018 23:46:06 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:55624) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fAotz-0006ID-9H; Mon, 23 Apr 2018 23:45:59 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.12.254.204] (port=63171 helo=[10.209.255.51]) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1fAoty-0006Is-Ic; Mon, 23 Apr 2018 23:45:59 -0400 In-Reply-To: <83a7ttwcxx.fsf@gnu.org> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:145719 Archived-At: On April 24, 2018 5:33:30 AM GMT+03:00, Eli Zaretskii wrot= e: > > From: Juri Linkov > > Cc: 31231@debbugs=2Egnu=2Eorg > > Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2018 23:16:09 +0300 > >=20 > > >> But how these text terminals display Unicode quotes in Info > manuals? > > > > > > Info manuals are displayed by an Info reader, and each Info reader > has > > > its own solution for this problem (generally, substitution of > ASCII > > > characters for undisplayable Unicode ones)=2E > >=20 > > Does the Emacs Info reader implement such solution? >=20 > Emacs itself does, not just in Info=2E The standalone Info reader (part > of the Texinfo package) has a slightly different solution=2E >=20 > > > I was talking about reading NEWS in a general-purpose > text-browsing > > > program, such as Less=2E It is IMO not a good idea to prevent > people > > > from doing that and requiring them to only read NEWS and ChangeLog > > > files in Emacs=2E > >=20 > > When I tried to read NEWS using Less in xterm, I can see all these > > quotes in UTF-8, for example, the quotes in =E2=80=9Clike this=E2=80= =9D=2E >=20 > I guess that's because your text terminal supports UTF-8=2E >=20 > > Every symbol in NEWS quoted by either =E2=80=98straight=E2=80=99 quoti= ng style 'like > this', > > or =E2=80=98grave=E2=80=99 `like this'=2E For example, for > 'electric-quote-replace-double' > > starting Isearch with =E2=80=98M-s =2E=E2=80=99, and repeating the sam= e symbol search > in the > > source code=2E >=20 > I'm asking what us the problem not to use "M-s =2E" in those cases, and > instead to look for the symbol as a literal string=2E I think in a file > like NEWS this shouldn't yield too many false hits=2E Ah, I see I've misunderstood=2E You originally talked about "M-s _", not = about "M-s =2E"=2E Is "M-s =2E" the main/only problem?