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From: Bruno Barbier <brubar.cs@gmail.com>
To: Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@posteo.net>
Cc: Alain.Cochard@unistra.fr, Matt <matt@excalamus.com>,
	"emacs-orgmode@gnu.org" <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: bash source code block: problem after ssh commands
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2023 20:01:19 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <655cfe81.7b0a0220.e2ac8.d1fc@mx.google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87zfzb1h5q.fsf@localhost>


Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@posteo.net> writes:

> Bruno Barbier <brubar.cs@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> FWIW, M-x shell differs from what a plain terminal is doing (xterm, in
>> my case), but, I do prefer 'M-x shell' behavior: it allows me to copy
>> multiple lines, getting the same results as when I type them manually,
>> or copy them line by line. My xterm doesn't seem to allow me to do that.
>
> The behavior of M-x shell can indeed be made use of.
> However, this particular difference with xterm, AFAIU, is not
> documented - unaware users may be surprised.
> The situation is worse with Org shell blocks - users naturally expect
> script-like behavior (even for :session), but run into edge cases like
> this and get confused.
>
> We should either document the caveats, or, preferably, make the behavior
> more consistent with expectations. At least, by default.

> That's why I think that filing a bug report makes sense from Org mode
> project point of view.

Thanks for the explanation.  I see you got my point.  We'll see what
Emacs maintainers will say about the current behavior of M-x shell;
filling the bug report was definitely a good idea anyway.



Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@posteo.net> writes:
> __By default__, Org should produce more expected behavior - what users
> would get from running a script file rather than from redirecting stdin.
> We can optionally leave the stdin redirection as an option to be used by
> the users who understand the peculiarities.

I agree that it would be simpler to switch to the script-like behavior
by default on org side.  About the interactive-like behavior, that
would be nice to keep it, if some people rely on it in their existing
documents (I personally don't).

Bruno


  reply	other threads:[~2023-11-21 19:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-10-25 11:17 bash source code block: problem after ssh commands Alain.Cochard
2023-10-25 15:12 ` Leo Butler
2023-10-25 16:14   ` Alain.Cochard
2023-10-25 16:47     ` Leo Butler
2023-10-25 16:59     ` yaxp
2023-10-26  8:44   ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-10-26 13:23     ` Alain.Cochard
2023-10-26 13:44       ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-10-27 18:26         ` Alain.Cochard
2023-10-28  5:22           ` Max Nikulin
2023-10-30 10:50           ` Bruno Barbier
2023-11-06 13:32             ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-11-06 18:25               ` Matt
2023-11-07  8:55                 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-11-08 19:41                   ` Matt
2023-11-09 12:14                     ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-11-09 17:48                       ` Matt
2023-11-15 16:32                         ` Matt
2023-11-15 18:04                           ` Matt
2023-11-16  9:32                           ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-11-16 19:03                             ` Matt
2023-11-16 19:46                               ` Alain.Cochard
2023-11-16 20:54                                 ` Matt
2023-11-17  9:22                                   ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-11-17  9:55                                     ` Alain.Cochard
2023-11-17 10:17                                       ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-11-17 15:32                                         ` Leo Butler
2023-11-17 15:47                                         ` Bruno Barbier
2023-11-18 10:37                                           ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-11-21 19:01                                             ` Bruno Barbier [this message]
2023-11-22 17:06                                               ` Max Nikulin
2023-11-19  4:17                                           ` Non-emacs shell (Re: bash source code block: problem after ssh commands) Max Nikulin
2023-11-21 15:33                                             ` Bruno Barbier
2023-11-18  8:04                                         ` bash source code block: problem after ssh commands Max Nikulin
2023-11-18 10:43                                           ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-11-18 16:18                                             ` Max Nikulin
2024-06-29 15:40                                           ` Max Nikulin
2023-11-17 22:07                                     ` Matt
2023-11-18  3:11                                       ` Forget about "bash -c bash file.sh" (Re: bash source code block: problem after ssh commands) Max Nikulin
2023-11-18  8:11                                         ` Matt
2023-11-18  8:29                                           ` Bruno Barbier
2023-11-18  8:43                                             ` Matt
2023-11-18  8:54                                               ` Bruno Barbier
2023-11-18  9:09                                                 ` Matt
2023-11-18  9:11                                                   ` Bruno Barbier
2023-11-18 10:47                                                   ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-11-18  8:19                                       ` bash source code block: problem after ssh commands Bruno Barbier
2023-11-18  9:02                                         ` Matt
2023-11-18 15:51                                       ` Matt
2024-06-30  8:57                                         ` Max Nikulin
2024-06-30 11:06                                           ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-06-30 15:19                                             ` Max Nikulin
2024-06-30 15:28                                               ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-06-30 15:48                                                 ` Max Nikulin
2024-06-30 16:42                                                   ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-07-01  9:41                                                     ` Max Nikulin
2024-07-01  9:51                                                       ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-07-01 10:54                                                         ` Max Nikulin
2024-07-01 16:01                                                           ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-07-03 11:06                                                             ` Max Nikulin
2024-07-03 12:33                                                               ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-10-26 14:44 ` Russell Adams
2023-10-27 11:47   ` Alain.Cochard
2023-11-06 18:01     ` Matt
2023-11-07  0:51       ` Alain.Cochard
2023-11-18  8:09 ` Max Nikulin
2023-11-18  8:36   ` Bruno Barbier

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