From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Gregory Heytings Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#60568: [FR] 30.0.50; Help buffers and function bodies for generated functions Date: Sat, 07 Jan 2023 09:42:51 +0000 Message-ID: <6538f58eb5cc153a2250@heytings.org> References: <87fscpifdw.fsf@localhost> <83wn61w7lc.fsf@gnu.org> <8dea9f3e0e7865d8f3c6@heytings.org> <83r0w9vzgy.fsf@gnu.org> <8dea9f3e0e8e6114ffc3@heytings.org> <83pmbtvwyr.fsf@gnu.org> <8dea9f3e0e160e17818f@heytings.org> <83mt6xvsct.fsf@gnu.org> <8dea9f3e0ea1de84c49a@heytings.org> <83cz7sw4q1.fsf@gnu.org> <371ba1d0beb0ed44a9a6@heytings.org> <371ba1d0be96347bdf60@heytings.org> <83k01yu93p.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="23473"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: yantar92@posteo.net, mardani29@yahoo.es, Stefan Monnier , 60568@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Jan 07 10:43:34 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pE5ji-0005yg-M2 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 07 Jan 2023 10:43:34 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pE5jF-0006eq-AK; Sat, 07 Jan 2023 04:43:05 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pE5jC-0006eD-TM for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 07 Jan 2023 04:43:04 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pE5jC-0006QO-8e for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 07 Jan 2023 04:43:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pE5jC-0001f2-3p for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 07 Jan 2023 04:43:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Gregory Heytings Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 07 Jan 2023 09:43:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 60568 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 60568-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B60568.16730845746351 (code B ref 60568); Sat, 07 Jan 2023 09:43:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 60568) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Jan 2023 09:42:54 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56489 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pE5j4-0001eM-0i for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 07 Jan 2023 04:42:54 -0500 Original-Received: from heytings.org ([95.142.160.155]:34550) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pE5j2-0001eF-Ma for 60568@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 07 Jan 2023 04:42:53 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=heytings.org; s=20220101; t=1673084572; bh=EKQBuuikBVv2TBB1UaRtg0napaNlI2Ec/WoWUqExzvI=; h=Date:From:To:cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:References:From; b=YsJjXr5M9L8/x9kUCYkojlM4q985chgM5vfAWgRXzXMJqglIjx2XLs5ze/tNgr9HA aeNAjaao9WB4RRHc+bD1CaYzI8DuGN8kfsFVkRo2j0AVGeYrgLrad6zMAq2mHr2+A1 HQfzX2iq1ugX/4qNm1miOMVvxVc3xkKRAtwjs8ROAXb9VZBr0I0hWhGXg388mw+VQ8 YyqsFPaZK6L/mgHuOycAJNraraDvuQjPqiSMzh3h+1xdXqL/i3sfn8ZTJeduHpOH06 WDYt8sRb0agiJ3L973EJIkiqR1u5TV1VBx/v2Ga+lILWYGjAX2ffIsnN1fh78uXnlo ftBj0nsEMlFrA== In-Reply-To: <83k01yu93p.fsf@gnu.org> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:252779 Archived-At: >> If you look at the code of `find-func.el` you'll see that we already >> rely on heuristics, so it seems like a natural complement. But I agree >> that `definition-name` is usually preferable since it's more reliable. >> Still most people don't know `definition-name`, so it can still be >> helpful. > > Maybe people will know better if definition-name would be documented. > I think the place where it should be documented is the suggested *Help* screen, with a sentence like "To ensure an accurate identification of the place where `frobnicate' was defined, the definition-name slot of the `frobnicate' symbol should be set ."