From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Eli Zaretskii" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: fringes Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 20:32:19 +0300 Sender: help-gnu-emacs-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: <6503-Fri17May2002203218+0300-eliz@is.elta.co.il> References: <3CE2DC6C.B801FBE3@lvision.com> <3CE52C06.3BAD5491@lvision.com> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1021656985 12239 127.0.0.1 (17 May 2002 17:36:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 17:36:25 +0000 (UTC) Return-path: Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([199.232.76.164]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 178leS-0003BB-00 for ; Fri, 17 May 2002 19:36:24 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 178leD-0000wR-00; Fri, 17 May 2002 13:36:09 -0400 Original-Received: from frigg.inter.net.il ([192.114.186.16]) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 178lbu-0000gt-00 for ; Fri, 17 May 2002 13:33:46 -0400 Original-Received: from Zaretsky ([80.230.2.40]) by frigg.inter.net.il (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 3.1.0.54-GA) with ESMTP id BLA77770; Fri, 17 May 2002 20:33:42 +0300 (IDT) Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailer: emacs 21.2.50 (via feedmail 8 I) and Blat ver 1.8.9 In-Reply-To: (message from Greg Hill on Fri, 17 May 2002 09:57:27 -0700) Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.9 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:319 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:319 > From: Greg Hill > Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 09:57:27 -0700 > > All of the > "improvements" to Emacs-21 (like the "fringes" and "tool-bar") that > are immediately obvious to anyone familiar with previous versions > appear to have been designed by an escapee from the Microsoft asylum. Actually, the person who designed them never looked at a Microsoft OS for inspiration (AFAIK, he didn't use any Windows system at all). It's okay to dislike a feature, but why post derogatory remarks about people who labored on coding them, and then gave the results out for free?