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X-Spam_score_int: -10 X-Spam_score: -1.1 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, MISSING_HEADERS=1.021, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:124712 Archived-At: > On Oct 25, 2020, at 08:49, Christopher Dimech wrote: >=20 >=20 > Not instantly, that is agreed. But we can start with adding > the Key-Mnemonics 'A' and 'P'. We can call the key with Priority > 2, the Alternate Key 'A'. >=20 > So nomenclature will be, by priority and Mnemonics: >=20 > Control (C), Alternate (A,M), Hyper(H), Shift(S), Super(P,s). It seems that I have been left in the dark somewhere along the line. I = do not understand the concept of "priorities" in this context. I have been using Emacs since the 1980's. As I see it there are three modifier keys: Shift,Control and what Emacs = calls Meta. In general, Shift does not have meaning since it only = changes the character that the other modifiers apply to (C-a versus C-A = or C-, versus C-<). I have always understood that what the Emacs documentation referred to = as "the Meta Key" as the other modifier key used by the current OS or = setup. As I understand things the modifier keys apply, period. C-M-a has no = relationship to either C-a or M-a so where does priority come into play = here? Fran=