From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: RE: C-d deleting region considered harmful Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2010 20:10:17 -0700 Message-ID: <6490F7CF223542FEBC8EADD8C81B6DFC@us.oracle.com> References: <87eicrx1ls.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <83lj6zz9o0.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1284952213 21575 80.91.229.12 (20 Sep 2010 03:10:13 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 03:10:13 +0000 (UTC) Cc: eliz@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org, 'Stefan Monnier' , miles@gnu.org To: "'Lennart Borgman'" , Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Sep 20 05:10:11 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OxWle-00061s-Pa for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 05:10:11 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44549 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OxWld-0005ua-U3 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 19 Sep 2010 23:10:09 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=37834 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OxWlW-0005uV-Jt for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 19 Sep 2010 23:10:03 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OxWlV-0005oY-3t for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 19 Sep 2010 23:10:02 -0400 Original-Received: from rcsinet10.oracle.com ([148.87.113.121]:29807) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OxWlS-0005o8-Og; Sun, 19 Sep 2010 23:09:58 -0400 Original-Received: from acsinet15.oracle.com (acsinet15.oracle.com [141.146.126.227]) by rcsinet10.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.2/Switch-3.4.2) with ESMTP id o8K39rhs028909 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Mon, 20 Sep 2010 03:09:55 GMT Original-Received: from acsmt355.oracle.com (acsmt355.oracle.com [141.146.40.155]) by acsinet15.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.2/Switch-3.4.1) with ESMTP id o8JMZxqw030401; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 03:09:52 GMT Original-Received: from abhmt001.oracle.com by acsmt353.oracle.com with ESMTP id 611317381284952174; Sun, 19 Sep 2010 20:09:34 -0700 Original-Received: from dradamslap1 (/10.159.223.213) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Sun, 19 Sep 2010 20:09:33 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: ActYWfB5cB7f2isMSfaPa6eOMDwydwAFt3Xg X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5994 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:130518 Archived-At: > > =A0 =A0Thanks. =A0But we're discussing here what to do with C-d:=20 > > for `delete' we=A0already decided that it should delete an > > active region (by default). =A0Whether you agree with this > > `delete' behavior is irrelevant. > > > > It won't bother anyone for `delete' to delete the region. =A0Making > > `backspace' do so is the change that will bother lots of users. >=20 > However a lot of other people also expect C-d to delete the visible > region. Huh? Where do you get that? Who would expect that based on other = applications or platforms? That is certainly not what C-d does on Windows, for = instance. > I think we really need to get compatibility of this kind > implemented. Compatibility? With what? > (I have some ideas for it, but I have a lack of time at > the moment so I have preferred not to say much about it.) Start by saying something to back up your preposterous claims that a lot = of people are used to C-d deleting the selection and that there is a "compatibility" imperative for C-d to do so.