From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Glenn Morris Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#33781: tramp tests abort on hydra Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2018 15:47:29 -0500 Message-ID: <647eg61s0u.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> References: <5jimzsj75r.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87ftuv3rry.fsf@gmx.de> <2wlg4mbsgt.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87h8faeijo.fsf@gmx.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1545165965 10104 195.159.176.226 (18 Dec 2018 20:46:05 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2018 20:46:05 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) Cc: 33781@debbugs.gnu.org To: Michael Albinus Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Dec 18 21:46:01 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gZMFd-0002W4-ER for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 18 Dec 2018 21:46:01 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56255 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gZMHk-00013x-9P for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 18 Dec 2018 15:48:12 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:52926) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gZMHa-0000xt-Qc for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Dec 2018 15:48:03 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gZMHa-0000A5-5K for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Dec 2018 15:48:02 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:49494) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gZMHa-00009P-1U for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Dec 2018 15:48:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gZMHZ-0002r0-RA for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Dec 2018 15:48:01 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Glenn Morris Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2018 20:48:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 33781 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 33781-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B33781.154516606010941 (code B ref 33781); Tue, 18 Dec 2018 20:48:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 33781) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Dec 2018 20:47:40 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53752 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gZMHD-0002qO-QT for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 18 Dec 2018 15:47:40 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:43246) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gZMHC-0002q9-0o for 33781@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 18 Dec 2018 15:47:38 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gZMH6-0006te-5Q for 33781@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 18 Dec 2018 15:47:32 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:42888) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gZMH3-0006dk-B6; Tue, 18 Dec 2018 15:47:29 -0500 Original-Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1gZMH3-0005hS-6Y; Tue, 18 Dec 2018 15:47:29 -0500 X-Spook: Scammers Communications infrastructure bluebird S Box X-Ran: L@1&[Q8\,Rk$Zx$nk5&N&lg0d*6R&-2HZJ%Bd^MaH*> X-Hue: green X-Attribution: GM In-Reply-To: <87h8faeijo.fsf@gmx.de> (Michael Albinus's message of "Tue, 18 Dec 2018 20:33:47 +0100") X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:153574 Archived-At: Michael Albinus wrote: > This doesn't work, if you need the initial value of the user option in > order to compute a new value: > > --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- > # emacs -Q --eval '(customize-set-variable (quote tramp-remote-path) (add-to-list (quote tramp-remote-path) (quote tramp-own-remote-path)))' > > => customize-set-variable: Symbol's value as variable is void: tramp-remote-path > --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- This is a generic issue. Personally I don't see it as justification for autoloading a new defcustom. Removing long-established autoloads from existing variables is a different story.