From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Chris Van Dusen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Emacs discussed on US NPR Date: Fri, 29 May 2015 05:14:07 -0500 Message-ID: <6470B039-B728-40E8-B793-9672A506C8D3@gmail.com> References: <5929621e-367b-4781-97dd-db5f439c9152@default> <87iobcs96r.fsf@newcastle.ac.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2098\)) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1432894465 14202 80.91.229.3 (29 May 2015 10:14:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 29 May 2015 10:14:25 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Barry Margolin Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri May 29 12:14:17 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YyHIt-0004Cp-LY for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 29 May 2015 12:14:15 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:34862 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YyHIs-0005Px-Ur for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 29 May 2015 06:14:14 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:41751) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YyHIi-0005Pr-RN for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 29 May 2015 06:14:06 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YyHIf-0002hm-JC for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 29 May 2015 06:14:04 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-oi0-x22d.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4003:c06::22d]:36781) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YyHIf-0002hK-C5 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 29 May 2015 06:14:01 -0400 Original-Received: by oihb142 with SMTP id b142so52808744oih.3 for ; Fri, 29 May 2015 03:13:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :message-id:references:to; bh=hLGq+hgICtiB8cer8CG9lWcs7PaVrKksxKG/8z5Yisc=; b=qEOLQUdl/b/Ua9Pzqi398jwlXqVSTeGdQwJVv4OiULLkJgx61VRuqrx054Ulp7SvzL w1oC8+ltd2u+bH5nj7dwA/YOcal9ZYrxB382q2HwXNHOg0IWlqYffCPdM+ODiWH6LXxX GchsJPupcQ0Ql3g0fLIly5ghvzOgiWZ7Vf0zzcNdahOIwdNfOz6iDSB5JHM5bDox0+/+ l8Na23qOz2yg2gf/PFQdk9hoVMgcbDDO/8uQSYT+OXwZn4j41Mxmdh9lPunf+Fl0eivo tdWpQEUAcaDBM82fD7WyANMinWKELqhYrNQD2eJR2BjvQC6MQEqZdSZSEKy5E12ATP1C onyQ== X-Received: by 10.202.209.137 with SMTP id i131mr6009999oig.57.1432894432544; Fri, 29 May 2015 03:13:52 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from [192.168.254.94] (68-90-30-246.ded.swbell.net. [68.90.30.246]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id qx8sm2653411oeb.15.2015.05.29.03.13.51 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 29 May 2015 03:13:51 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2098) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:4003:c06::22d X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:104658 Archived-At: On May 28, 2015, at 7:16 PM, Barry Margolin wrote: > > In article , > Paul Smith wrote: > >> On Thu, 2015-05-28 at 22:07 +0100, Phillip Lord wrote: >>> I remember a friend of mine complaining about this. A new release of >>> Emacs, now half the keybindings will have changed. Never having seen a >>> new release of Emacs, I stuck with the old version for quite a while. >> >> I think this is an overstatement: the keys I use 99% of the time every >> day haven't changed since I started using Emacs, which was a REALLY long >> time ago. What keybindings are we talking about? > > It doesn't matter if only a few keybindings have changed, if they happen > to include something that his friend used frequently. To him, it seems > like a major change. > e.g. http://xkcd.com/1172/ > -- > Barry Margolin, barmar@alum.mit.edu > Arlington, MA > *** PLEASE post questions in newsgroups, not directly to me *** Chris.