From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#14712: 24.3.50; `isearch-filter-visible' obsolescence Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2013 11:48:36 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <64023c36-7905-47f4-8dc8-fe73d713034a@default> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1372186150 16879 80.91.229.3 (25 Jun 2013 18:49:10 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2013 18:49:10 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 14712-done@debbugs.gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jun 25 20:49:09 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UrYIf-0003IN-25 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 25 Jun 2013 20:49:09 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:47030 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UrYIe-0000E6-NV for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 25 Jun 2013 14:49:08 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:41390) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UrYIa-0000Dp-EK for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Jun 2013 14:49:05 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UrYIZ-0005sX-94 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Jun 2013 14:49:04 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:46614) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UrYIZ-0005sT-6H for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Jun 2013 14:49:03 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1UrYIY-0006qe-HB for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Jun 2013 14:49:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Drew Adams Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2013 18:49:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 14712 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: notabug Original-Received: via spool by 14712-done@debbugs.gnu.org id=D14712.137218612926299 (code D ref 14712); Tue, 25 Jun 2013 18:49:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 14712-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Jun 2013 18:48:49 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40930 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1UrYIK-0006q7-H1 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 25 Jun 2013 14:48:48 -0400 Original-Received: from userp1040.oracle.com ([156.151.31.81]:23439) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1UrYII-0006pq-2y for 14712-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 25 Jun 2013 14:48:46 -0400 Original-Received: from acsinet22.oracle.com (acsinet22.oracle.com [141.146.126.238]) by userp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.1/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.1) with ESMTP id r5PIgKfA027652 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Tue, 25 Jun 2013 18:42:21 GMT Original-Received: from userz7022.oracle.com (userz7022.oracle.com [156.151.31.86]) by acsinet22.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r5PImbhX013481 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 25 Jun 2013 18:48:38 GMT Original-Received: from abhmt107.oracle.com (abhmt107.oracle.com [141.146.116.59]) by userz7022.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r5PImbNx019799; Tue, 25 Jun 2013 18:48:37 GMT In-Reply-To: X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.7 (607090) [OL 12.0.6668.5000 (x86)] X-Source-IP: acsinet22.oracle.com [141.146.126.238] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:75586 Archived-At: > > The proper replacement is given in the source code: >=20 > > (or (eq search-invisible t) > > (not (isearch-range-invisible beg end))) >=20 > > It is that information that needs to be conveyed in the obsolescence > > message. >=20 > No, the obsolescence message only points to the other > variable/function/feature with which you can obtain similar results. > It's generally not a drop-in replacement. No. There is a bug here - perhaps two. Either (a) the message produced, itself, is incorrect/misleading (I don't h= ave the message in hand), because it tells you to simply "replace" the one = by the other, or (b) the doc string of `make-obsolete' is wrong, because it= says that: "The warning will say that CURRENT-NAME should be used instead." It is not a simple case of using CURRENT-NAME instead of the obsolete name.= This doc string says in effect that this obsolescence operation is simply= a renaming (use this name instead of that name), but it is not. Extremely misleading at the very least. And outright incorrect, by any rea= sonable reading.