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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:229425 Archived-At: > > > I really *urge* you to turn `menu-bar-mode' back on, permanently. > > > > I live pretty happily with a disabled menu-bar. >=20 > And I never disable it. Not even on a laptop. I disable it on thumbnail frames (it does not resize along with the frame - I know of no easy way to resize its text). And I sometimes toggle it off for other reasons. But I too generally leave it on.