From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: chengiz Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Alt vs Meta - Sun keyboard, redhat linux Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2011 15:17:13 -0800 (PST) Organization: http://groups.google.com Message-ID: <62e7e387-8861-4845-9021-522add704c6d@l7g2000vbv.googlegroups.com> References: <6c4514cc-28cf-4a1d-8afe-6dcec2325b05@z9g2000yqz.googlegroups.com> <12f2b857-0c03-44a8-a4fc-439bd083b0d1@j19g2000prh.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1294184466 30270 80.91.229.12 (4 Jan 2011 23:41:06 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2011 23:41:06 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jan 05 00:41:01 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PaGUu-00023v-E8 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 05 Jan 2011 00:41:00 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34579 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PaGUt-0003jd-Ox for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 04 Jan 2011 18:40:59 -0500 Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!postnews.google.com!l7g2000vbv.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 43 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.195.165.72 Original-X-Trace: posting.google.com 1294183033 8600 127.0.0.1 (4 Jan 2011 23:17:13 GMT) Original-X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2011 23:17:13 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: l7g2000vbv.googlegroups.com; posting-host=66.195.165.72; posting-account=nMxg0wkAAADbRVC3VR7lfeu1mkQ_EvLd User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686 (x86_64); en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101203 Firefox/3.6.13,gzip(gfe) Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:183988 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:78190 Archived-At: On Jan 4, 5:47=A0pm, Peter Dyballa wrote: > Am 04.01.2011 um 18:12 schrieb chengiz: > > > On Jan 3, 5:53 pm, Peter Dyballa wrote: > >> Why do you think the Alt and Meta key modifiers have something to do > >> with MS Losedos? > > > Where do I think that? > > Because you inserted the link to some =A0"Windows-Keyboard". > > > I think the missing piece is what emacs is doing with Alt_L, as in =A0 > > why it is not processing it as A-. > > Here's my xmodmap output: > > shift =A0 =A0 =A0 Shift_L (0x32), =A0Shift_R (0x3e) > > lock =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Caps_Lock (0x42) > > control =A0 =A0 Control_L (0x25), =A0Control_R (0x6d) > > mod1 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Alt_L (0x40), =A0Alt_R (0x71), =A0Alt_L (0x7d) > > mod2 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Num_Lock (0x4d) > > mod3 > > mod4 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Meta_L (0x73), =A0Meta_R (0x74), =A0Super_L (0x7f),= =A0Hyper_L > > (0x80), =A0Meta_L (0x9c) > > mod5 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Mode_switch (0x5d), =A0ISO_Level3_Shift (0x7c) > > I cant tell what to put in my xmodmaprc to make sure emacs behaves > > correctly. > > Modifier 5 cannot be Meta, Super, and Hyper altogether. > > When you launch GNU Emacs with -Q, without any customisation, does it =A0 > still interpret Alt as Meta? If so, then my assumption about the =A0 > parity of the modifiers is wrong and it plays a role that mod1 is Meta = =A0 > and mod2 or mod3 is Alt. Then Hyper and maybe Super can follow, but I =A0 > think Mode_switch is more important, since it's the compose key, which = =A0 > allows to type =F8 as o / etc. Num_Lock can be pretty useless. > > In case Alt and Meta work correctly in 'emacs -Q', then something in =A0 > your or your system's customisation (init files) is exchanging them. > There is no difference with -Q, it still interprets Alt as Meta.