From: "Andreas Röhler" <andreas.roehler@easy-emacs.de>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: 22564@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#22564: Fundamental mode isn't fundamental enough.
Date: Thu, 5 May 2022 20:34:03 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <6260ca33-8d83-6b81-3d6b-5b00712868cf@easy-emacs.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83a6bw2bud.fsf@gnu.org>
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Am 05.05.22 um 18:17 schrieb Eli Zaretskii:
>> Date: Thu, 5 May 2022 13:02:37 +0200
>> From: Andreas Röhler<andreas.roehler@easy-emacs.de>
>>
>> A fundamental mode should be as fundamental as possible, stripped by all fanciness.
> "Fanciness" is in the eyes of the beholder. It is clear that you
> don't like electric-indent-mode,
Hi Eli,
that's not true. In fact, I use electric-indentation all over the day.
Just don't want it in environments, where it's not appropriate.
It's easier to switch on stuff than looking how to switch things off.
> but that doesn't mean your opinion
> represents that of the majority.
Majority is no measure for correctness. Requiring it, would put
religion at the place of science.
> We decided to turn that mode ON by
> default because quite a few people had other expectations.
>
> Fundamental mode is just a mode.
That's bad. Need a reliable basement to build upon. Kind of an empty sheet.
> Richard even says that it is an
> important mode. Then it follows that assuming it has no "fanciness"
> whatsoever isn't necessarily correct.
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Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-02-05 12:55 bug#22564: Fundamental mode isn't fundamental enough Alan Mackenzie
2016-02-05 14:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-05 15:13 ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-02-05 15:34 ` Mark Oteiza
2016-02-05 15:38 ` Drew Adams
2016-02-05 17:57 ` Marcin Borkowski
2016-02-05 19:59 ` Drew Adams
2016-02-05 19:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-05 20:18 ` Marcin Borkowski
2016-02-06 19:48 ` Richard Stallman
2016-02-05 20:23 ` Glenn Morris
2016-02-05 21:43 ` Glenn Morris
2016-02-05 21:53 ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-02-17 2:50 ` John Wiegley
2022-04-27 14:39 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-05-01 1:53 ` Richard Stallman
2022-05-01 6:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-05-02 23:47 ` Richard Stallman
2022-05-03 7:03 ` Andreas Röhler
2022-05-03 14:28 ` Drew Adams
2022-05-03 17:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-05-04 22:49 ` Richard Stallman
2022-05-05 5:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-05-05 11:02 ` Andreas Röhler
2022-05-05 16:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-05-05 18:34 ` Andreas Röhler [this message]
2022-05-06 23:20 ` Richard Stallman
2022-05-07 6:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-05-07 23:08 ` Richard Stallman
[not found] ` <mailman.3748.1454702408.843.bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2016-02-06 11:06 ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-02-07 18:33 ` Richard Stallman
[not found] ` <mailman.3712.1454686507.843.bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2016-02-06 11:21 ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-02-06 14:36 ` Mark Oteiza
2016-02-06 16:59 ` Achim Gratz
2016-02-07 19:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-07 21:02 ` Achim Gratz
2016-02-07 21:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-08 19:39 ` Achim Gratz
2016-02-08 20:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-08 20:18 ` Achim Gratz
2016-02-08 20:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-08 21:01 ` Achim Gratz
2016-02-09 3:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
[not found] <<20160205125559.GC7727@acm.fritz.box>
[not found] ` <<834mdnusem.fsf@gnu.org>
2016-02-05 15:36 ` Drew Adams
[not found] <<mailman.3748.1454702408.843.bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
[not found] ` <<20160206110601.6095.qmail@mail.muc.de>
2016-02-06 15:57 ` Drew Adams
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2016-02-07 19:43 ` Drew Adams
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