From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Mike Kupfer Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#56291: 29.0.50; version-control versus gnus-backup-startup-file Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2022 18:00:07 -0700 Message-ID: <62574.1656464407@alto> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="35233"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" To: 56291@debbugs.gnu.org Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Jun 29 03:01:23 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1o6M55-00090q-8E for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 29 Jun 2022 03:01:23 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:55506 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1o6M53-0002H6-Mv for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 28 Jun 2022 21:01:21 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:44128) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1o6M4l-0002Gm-VS for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 28 Jun 2022 21:01:05 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:34554) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1o6M4k-0005nr-KL for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 28 Jun 2022 21:01:03 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1o6M4k-0007fo-Hl for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 28 Jun 2022 21:01:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Mike Kupfer Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2022 01:01:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 56291 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.165646443029441 (code B ref -1); Wed, 29 Jun 2022 01:01:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Jun 2022 01:00:30 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56684 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1o6M4E-0007en-DR for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 28 Jun 2022 21:00:30 -0400 Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:34716) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1o6M4A-0007ee-SQ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 28 Jun 2022 21:00:29 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:44030) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1o6M46-0002AZ-C6 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 28 Jun 2022 21:00:26 -0400 Original-Received: from shell1.rawbw.com ([198.144.192.42]:20473) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1o6M44-0005kG-6W for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 28 Jun 2022 21:00:21 -0400 Original-Received: from alto (135-180-174-172.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net [135.180.174.172] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by shell1.rawbw.com (8.15.1/8.15.1) with ESMTPSA id 25T109k2086524 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2022 18:00:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mkupfer@alum.berkeley.edu) X-Authentication-Warning: shell1.rawbw.com: Host 135-180-174-172.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net [135.180.174.172] (may be forged) claimed to be alto X-Mailer: MH-E 8.6+git; nmh 1.7.1; Emacs 29.0.50 Received-SPF: none client-ip=198.144.192.42; envelope-from=mkupfer@alum.berkeley.edu; helo=shell1.rawbw.com X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:235584 Archived-At: Awhile back, I wanted to get numbered backup files for my Gnus .newsrc.eld file, at least for a few days until I figured out why it was getting trashed occasionally. It took me quite some time to get it to work, because I didn't know about gnus-backup-startup-file, and I misunderstood part of the Info page "Backup Names". That page says You can have Emacs set =E2=80=98version-control=E2=80=99 locally whenev= er you visit a given file (*note File Variables::). Some modes, such as Rmail mode, set this variable. I think that last sentence would be clearer as Some packages, such as Rmail, override the global setting of =E2=80=98version-control=E2=80=99 in this manner. thanks, mike