* bug#74785: 27.1; Fill-paragraph in RST mode does not respect line blocks @ 2024-12-11 10:37 Richard Brooksby 2024-12-14 10:22 ` Eli Zaretskii 0 siblings, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread From: Richard Brooksby @ 2024-12-11 10:37 UTC (permalink / raw) To: 74785 Fill-paragraph (M-Q) in a reStructuredText document that is formatted using "Line Blocks" <https://docutils.sourceforge.io/docs/ref/rst/restructuredtext.html#line-blocks> such as: | In Xanadu did Kubla Khan | A stately pleasure-dome decree: | Where Alph, the sacred river, ran | Through caverns measureless to man | Down to a sunless sea. results in this: | In Xanadu did Kubla Khan | A stately pleasure-dome decree: | Where Alph, the sacred river, ran | Through caverns measureless to man | Down to a sunless sea. but in this case it should leave the line breaks intact. The code should probably treat the vertical bars something like list bullets, since continuation lines are possible, e.g. | This is the all the first line of output even though it's two lines of input. | This is second line in the output. | And this is the third. (I searched <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/pkgreport.cgi?package=emacs> for a similar report. Apologies if I was not thorough enough.) In GNU Emacs 27.1 (build 1, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, X toolkit, Xaw3d scroll bars) of 2024-09-17, modified by Debian built on lcy02-amd64-079 Windowing system distributor 'The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.12201001 System Description: Ubuntu 22.04.5 LTS Recent messages: uncompressing rst.el.gz...done Note: file is write protected Mark set [3 times] Making completion list... delete-backward-char: Text is read-only Quit [2 times] Type C-x 1 to remove help window. Type "q" in help window to restore its previous buffer. 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* bug#74785: 27.1; Fill-paragraph in RST mode does not respect line blocks 2024-12-11 10:37 bug#74785: 27.1; Fill-paragraph in RST mode does not respect line blocks Richard Brooksby @ 2024-12-14 10:22 ` Eli Zaretskii 2024-12-16 22:05 ` Stefan Merten 0 siblings, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2024-12-14 10:22 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Richard Brooksby, Stefan Merten, Stefan Monnier; +Cc: 74785 > Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2024 10:37:01 +0000 > From: Richard Brooksby <rb@ravenbrook.com> > > > > Fill-paragraph (M-Q) in a reStructuredText document that is formatted > using "Line Blocks" > <https://docutils.sourceforge.io/docs/ref/rst/restructuredtext.html#line-blocks> > such as: > > | In Xanadu did Kubla Khan > | A stately pleasure-dome decree: > | Where Alph, the sacred river, ran > | Through caverns measureless to man > | Down to a sunless sea. > > results in this: > > | In Xanadu did Kubla Khan | A stately pleasure-dome decree: | Where > Alph, the sacred river, ran | Through caverns measureless to man | > Down to a sunless sea. > > but in this case it should leave the line breaks intact. The code > should probably treat the vertical bars something like list bullets, > since continuation lines are possible, e.g. > > | This is the all the first line > of output even though it's two lines > of input. > | This is second line in the output. > | And this is the third. > > (I searched <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/pkgreport.cgi?package=emacs> > for a similar report. Apologies if I was not thorough enough.) Stefan and Stefan, any ideas or suggestions? ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* bug#74785: 27.1; Fill-paragraph in RST mode does not respect line blocks 2024-12-14 10:22 ` Eli Zaretskii @ 2024-12-16 22:05 ` Stefan Merten 2024-12-17 2:53 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors 0 siblings, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread From: Stefan Merten @ 2024-12-16 22:05 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: Stefan Monnier, 74785, Richard Brooksby Hi Eli! 2 days ago Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2024 10:37:01 +0000 >> From: Richard Brooksby <rb@ravenbrook.com> >> >> >> >> Fill-paragraph (M-Q) in a reStructuredText document that is formatted >> using "Line Blocks" >> <https://docutils.sourceforge.io/docs/ref/rst/restructuredtext.html#line-blocks> >> such as: >> >> | In Xanadu did Kubla Khan >> | A stately pleasure-dome decree: >> | Where Alph, the sacred river, ran >> | Through caverns measureless to man >> | Down to a sunless sea. >> >> results in this: >> >> | In Xanadu did Kubla Khan | A stately pleasure-dome decree: | Where >> Alph, the sacred river, ran | Through caverns measureless to man | >> Down to a sunless sea. >> >> but in this case it should leave the line breaks intact. The code >> should probably treat the vertical bars something like list bullets, >> since continuation lines are possible, e.g. >> >> | This is the all the first line >> of output even though it's two lines >> of input. >> | This is second line in the output. >> | And this is the third. >> >> (I searched <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/pkgreport.cgi?package=emacs> >> for a similar report. Apologies if I was not thorough enough.) > > Stefan and Stefan, any ideas or suggestions? Richard is right: Filling should consider line blocks. OTOH line blocks are really a rarely used feature I guess, so it doesn't hurt much. I'll look deeper into the code. But don't hold your breath ;-) . Regards Stefan ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* bug#74785: 27.1; Fill-paragraph in RST mode does not respect line blocks 2024-12-16 22:05 ` Stefan Merten @ 2024-12-17 2:53 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors 2024-12-17 6:05 ` James Cloos 2024-12-17 12:25 ` Eli Zaretskii 0 siblings, 2 replies; 15+ messages in thread From: Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors @ 2024-12-17 2:53 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Stefan Merten; +Cc: Eli Zaretskii, 74785, Richard Brooksby >>> | This is the all the first line >>> of output even though it's two lines >>> of input. >>> | This is second line in the output. >>> | And this is the third. [...] >> Stefan and Stefan, any ideas or suggestions? [ With all those Stefans around I feel like nothing can stop us. ] I think we "just" need to: - set `paragraph-start` to match a line with a leading `|`. - set `adaptive-fill-regexp` to match this leading `|`. If the `paragraph-start` setting makes paragraph navigation inconvenient (too fine-grained), we could try and set `fill-forward-paragraph-function` to a function which let-binds `paragraph-start` around a call to `forward-paragraph`. Stefan ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* bug#74785: 27.1; Fill-paragraph in RST mode does not respect line blocks 2024-12-17 2:53 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors @ 2024-12-17 6:05 ` James Cloos 2024-12-17 12:51 ` Eli Zaretskii 2024-12-17 12:25 ` Eli Zaretskii 1 sibling, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread From: James Cloos @ 2024-12-17 6:05 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Stefan Merten; +Cc: Eli Zaretskii, Stefan Monnier, 74785, Richard Brooksby >>>>> Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors <Stefan> writes: this sort of wrapping used to work (at least in message buffers) for many years. you should be able to find my bug report about it breaking and the resuting refusal even to accept that it is a bug. -JimC -- James Cloos <cloos@jhcloos.com> OpenPGP: https://jhcloos.com/0x997A9F17ED7DAEA6.asc ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* bug#74785: 27.1; Fill-paragraph in RST mode does not respect line blocks 2024-12-17 6:05 ` James Cloos @ 2024-12-17 12:51 ` Eli Zaretskii 2024-12-17 14:49 ` James Cloos 2024-12-17 17:07 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors 0 siblings, 2 replies; 15+ messages in thread From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2024-12-17 12:51 UTC (permalink / raw) To: James Cloos; +Cc: stefan, monnier, 74785, rb > From: James Cloos <cloos@jhcloos.com> > Cc: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>, Eli Zaretskii > <eliz@gnu.org>, 74785@debbugs.gnu.org, Richard Brooksby > <rb@ravenbrook.com> > Copyright: Copyright 2015 James Cloos > Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2024 01:05:23 -0500 > > >>>>> Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors <Stefan> writes: > > this sort of wrapping used to work (at least in message buffers) for > many years. > > you should be able to find my bug report about it breaking and the > resuting refusal even to accept that it is a bug. If that's bug#24081, then I don't see any rejection there, only a request for clarification (which you gave). Then the bug was for some reason closed several months later, with no rationale. We could reopen the bug, of course (assuming it still relevant to current versions of Emacs 30 and 31). But that bug is about message-mode, not about rst-mode, so I'm not sure it is the same problem. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* bug#74785: 27.1; Fill-paragraph in RST mode does not respect line blocks 2024-12-17 12:51 ` Eli Zaretskii @ 2024-12-17 14:49 ` James Cloos 2024-12-17 15:11 ` Eli Zaretskii 2024-12-17 17:07 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors 1 sibling, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread From: James Cloos @ 2024-12-17 14:49 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: stefan, monnier, 74785, rb >>>>> "EZ" == Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes: EZ> If that's bug#24081, then I don't see any rejection there, only a EZ> request for clarification (which you gave). Then the bug was for some EZ> reason closed several months later, with no rationale. that is the bug number. i also received an email reply, which i see is not in debbugs, claiming that it were not a bug and overtly refusing any acceptance of ot work on a fix. i don't know why that reply is elided. -JimC -- James Cloos <cloos@jhcloos.com> OpenPGP: https://jhcloos.com/0x997A9F17ED7DAEA6.asc ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* bug#74785: 27.1; Fill-paragraph in RST mode does not respect line blocks 2024-12-17 14:49 ` James Cloos @ 2024-12-17 15:11 ` Eli Zaretskii 2024-12-17 15:34 ` Richard Brooksby 0 siblings, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2024-12-17 15:11 UTC (permalink / raw) To: James Cloos; +Cc: stefan, monnier, 74785, rb > From: James Cloos <cloos@jhcloos.com> > Cc: stefan@merten-home.de, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, > 74785@debbugs.gnu.org, rb@ravenbrook.com > Copyright: Copyright 2015 James Cloos > Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2024 09:49:03 -0500 > > >>>>> "EZ" == Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes: > > EZ> If that's bug#24081, then I don't see any rejection there, only a > EZ> request for clarification (which you gave). Then the bug was for some > EZ> reason closed several months later, with no rationale. > > that is the bug number. i also received an email reply, which i see is > not in debbugs, claiming that it were not a bug and overtly refusing any > acceptance of ot work on a fix. i don't know why that reply is elided. Neither do I. Did that email CC the bug number, or was it sent only to you? And who sent it, if I may ask? ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* bug#74785: 27.1; Fill-paragraph in RST mode does not respect line blocks 2024-12-17 15:11 ` Eli Zaretskii @ 2024-12-17 15:34 ` Richard Brooksby 2024-12-17 15:41 ` Eli Zaretskii 0 siblings, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread From: Richard Brooksby @ 2024-12-17 15:34 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Eli Zaretskii, James Cloos; +Cc: stefan, monnier, 74785 On 2024-12-17 15:11, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> From: James Cloos <cloos@jhcloos.com> >> Cc: stefan@merten-home.de, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, >> 74785@debbugs.gnu.org, rb@ravenbrook.com >> Copyright: Copyright 2015 James Cloos >> Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2024 09:49:03 -0500 >> >>>>>>> "EZ" == Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes: >> >> EZ> If that's bug#24081, then I don't see any rejection there, only a >> EZ> request for clarification (which you gave). Then the bug was for some >> EZ> reason closed several months later, with no rationale. >> >> that is the bug number. i also received an email reply, which i see is >> not in debbugs, claiming that it were not a bug and overtly refusing any >> acceptance of ot work on a fix. i don't know why that reply is elided. > > Neither do I. Did that email CC the bug number, or was it sent only > to you? And who sent it, if I may ask? Excuse me for not being familiar with the bug system, but is it possible to discuss that bug in that bug's thread, rather than having a discussion about bug management in this thread about RST verse handling? Thanks. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* bug#74785: 27.1; Fill-paragraph in RST mode does not respect line blocks 2024-12-17 15:34 ` Richard Brooksby @ 2024-12-17 15:41 ` Eli Zaretskii 0 siblings, 0 replies; 15+ messages in thread From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2024-12-17 15:41 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Richard Brooksby; +Cc: stefan, 74785, monnier, cloos > Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2024 15:34:31 +0000 > Cc: stefan@merten-home.de, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, 74785@debbugs.gnu.org > From: Richard Brooksby <rb@ravenbrook.com> > > On 2024-12-17 15:11, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > >> From: James Cloos <cloos@jhcloos.com> > >> Cc: stefan@merten-home.de, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, > >> 74785@debbugs.gnu.org, rb@ravenbrook.com > >> Copyright: Copyright 2015 James Cloos > >> Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2024 09:49:03 -0500 > >> > >>>>>>> "EZ" == Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes: > >> > >> EZ> If that's bug#24081, then I don't see any rejection there, only a > >> EZ> request for clarification (which you gave). Then the bug was for some > >> EZ> reason closed several months later, with no rationale. > >> > >> that is the bug number. i also received an email reply, which i see is > >> not in debbugs, claiming that it were not a bug and overtly refusing any > >> acceptance of ot work on a fix. i don't know why that reply is elided. > > > > Neither do I. Did that email CC the bug number, or was it sent only > > to you? And who sent it, if I may ask? > > Excuse me for not being familiar with the bug system, but is it possible > to discuss that bug in that bug's thread, rather than having a > discussion about bug management in this thread about RST verse handling? That bug is archived, so we cannot discuss anything unless we unarchive it. But we can stop discussing that here, since it's a separate issue. Thanks for pointing that out. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* bug#74785: 27.1; Fill-paragraph in RST mode does not respect line blocks 2024-12-17 12:51 ` Eli Zaretskii 2024-12-17 14:49 ` James Cloos @ 2024-12-17 17:07 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors 2024-12-23 16:50 ` Stefan Merten 1 sibling, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread From: Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors @ 2024-12-17 17:07 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: stefan, 74785, James Cloos, rb > But that bug is about message-mode, not about rst-mode, so I'm not > sure it is the same problem. It's not (that bug was about a prefix shared by lines of a paragraph, whereas this bug is about a prefix which starts a new paragraph). Stefan ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* bug#74785: 27.1; Fill-paragraph in RST mode does not respect line blocks 2024-12-17 17:07 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors @ 2024-12-23 16:50 ` Stefan Merten 0 siblings, 0 replies; 15+ messages in thread From: Stefan Merten @ 2024-12-23 16:50 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Stefan Monnier; +Cc: Eli Zaretskii, 74785, James Cloos, rb Hi guys! 6 days ago Stefan Monnier wrote: >> But that bug is about message-mode, not about rst-mode, so I'm not >> sure it is the same problem. > > It's not (that bug was about a prefix shared by lines of a paragraph, > whereas this bug is about a prefix which starts a new paragraph). Sorry, but it's not that simple. The syntax of reStructuredText is pretty tricky and it needs lots of good ideas to handle it. But it's nice to write and read - and that's is why it IMHO is still a worthwhile alternative. If it would be as simple as you suggest, I would have built it in from the start. There is a reason for not doing it. Indeed line blocks were at the end of my list of supported reST features because I think they are used rarely. The function `rst-line-tabs' has a FIXME comment: ;; FIXME: Must consider other tabs: ;; * Line blocks ;; * Definition lists ;; * Option lists I guess the real problem is in that second line, that line blocks are not yet supported. I'll look into this. Grüße Stefan ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* bug#74785: 27.1; Fill-paragraph in RST mode does not respect line blocks 2024-12-17 2:53 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors 2024-12-17 6:05 ` James Cloos @ 2024-12-17 12:25 ` Eli Zaretskii 2024-12-17 17:12 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors 1 sibling, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2024-12-17 12:25 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Stefan Monnier; +Cc: stefan, 74785, rb > From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> > Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, Richard Brooksby <rb@ravenbrook.com>, > 74785@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2024 21:53:31 -0500 > > - set `adaptive-fill-regexp` to match this leading `|`. Doesn't it already? ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* bug#74785: 27.1; Fill-paragraph in RST mode does not respect line blocks 2024-12-17 12:25 ` Eli Zaretskii @ 2024-12-17 17:12 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors 2024-12-18 4:56 ` Richard Brooksby 0 siblings, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread From: Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors @ 2024-12-17 17:12 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: stefan, 74785, rb >> - set `adaptive-fill-regexp` to match this leading `|`. > Doesn't it already? Not in my test, no. With a paragraph like: | bblblbl | asdfasdf | asdasdf M-: (and (looking-at adaptive-fill-regexp) (match-string 0)) RET returns a string that contains only the leading spaces. `paragraph-start` doesn't match those lines either. Stefan ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* bug#74785: 27.1; Fill-paragraph in RST mode does not respect line blocks 2024-12-17 17:12 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors @ 2024-12-18 4:56 ` Richard Brooksby 0 siblings, 0 replies; 15+ messages in thread From: Richard Brooksby @ 2024-12-18 4:56 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Stefan Monnier, Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: stefan, 74785 [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 323 bytes --] On 2024-12-17 17:12, Stefan Monnier wrote: >>> - set `adaptive-fill-regexp` to match this leading `|`. >> Doesn't it already? > > Not in my test, no. With a paragraph like: > > | bblblbl > | asdfasdf > | asdasdf Please find attached a self-documenting test document that you may find useful. Thank you! [-- Attachment #2: verse-test.rst --] [-- Type: text/x-rst, Size: 2694 bytes --] ================ Bug 74785 test ================ This is a test file for `GNU Emacs bug 74785 <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=74785>`_, created to help clarify the issue and help developers test solutions. It's not exhaustive. You can check the output easily with rst-compile (C-c C-c C-c). It would be nice if selecting the *entire* document and executing fill-paragraph would result in a document that is: 1. filled and wrapped nicely as a text source 2. has unchanged output. Example one. In the simple case, as a top-level block. | In Xanadu did Kubla Khan | A stately pleasure-dome decree: | Where Alph, the sacred river, ran | Through caverns measureless to man | Down to a sunless sea. Example two. Here's the same thing as a quote. | In Xanadu did Kubla Khan | A stately pleasure-dome decree: | Where Alph, the sacred river, ran | Through caverns measureless to man | Down to a sunless sea. -- Samuel Taylor Coleridge Example three. With continuation lines, this should produce identical output to the previous example. | In Xanadu did Kubla Khan | A stately pleasure-dome decree: | Where Alph, the sacred river, ran | Through caverns measureless to man | Down to a sunless sea. -- Samuel Taylor Coleridge It would be nice if fill-paragraph (M-q) would reformat example three to look like example two. Example four. Conversely, here's a verse with long lines beyond the default fill column of 70. | Begins the night’s shadows creeping, his eyes mocking, and beseeching. | I must stop his soul from joining, to fight with Poes’ shadows trying… | Trying once more, to take his soul, toward those demon littered shores. | Grabbing the ipod I forward tore, to give him tranquility evermore. | Pouch and ear buds firmly seated, engaged in a fierce-some war. | Morning found all, in blissful snores… Quoted the raven nevermore. -- Carol Eastman Example five. It would be nice if fill-paragraph would wrap these lines, but in a way that keeps the output identical. For example (with fill-column 70): | Begins the night’s shadows creeping, his eyes mocking, and beseeching. | I must stop his soul from joining, to fight with Poes’ shadows trying… | Trying once more, to take his soul, toward those demon littered shores. | Grabbing the ipod I forward tore, to give him tranquility evermore. | Pouch and ear buds firmly seated, engaged in a fierce-some war. | Morning found all, in blissful snores… Quoted the raven nevermore. -- Carol Eastman Of course all of the above must work when nested within other forms. Thanks all. .. end ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
end of thread, other threads:[~2024-12-23 16:50 UTC | newest] Thread overview: 15+ messages (download: mbox.gz follow: Atom feed -- links below jump to the message on this page -- 2024-12-11 10:37 bug#74785: 27.1; Fill-paragraph in RST mode does not respect line blocks Richard Brooksby 2024-12-14 10:22 ` Eli Zaretskii 2024-12-16 22:05 ` Stefan Merten 2024-12-17 2:53 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors 2024-12-17 6:05 ` James Cloos 2024-12-17 12:51 ` Eli Zaretskii 2024-12-17 14:49 ` James Cloos 2024-12-17 15:11 ` Eli Zaretskii 2024-12-17 15:34 ` Richard Brooksby 2024-12-17 15:41 ` Eli Zaretskii 2024-12-17 17:07 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors 2024-12-23 16:50 ` Stefan Merten 2024-12-17 12:25 ` Eli Zaretskii 2024-12-17 17:12 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors 2024-12-18 4:56 ` Richard Brooksby
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