From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Vasily Korytov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#5684: 23.1.92; russian-typewriter broken Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 18:10:39 +0300 Message-ID: <619f68431003070710r55e3ab3dp576774a3b712914b@mail.gmail.com> References: <87ocj1uxxs.fsf@mail.jurta.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1268003325 13622 80.91.229.12 (7 Mar 2010 23:08:45 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 23:08:45 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 5684@debbugs.gnu.org, Semka Novikov To: Juri Linkov Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Mar 08 00:08:40 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NoPaR-0002jH-3s for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 08 Mar 2010 00:08:39 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54799 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NoPaQ-0005pu-EU for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 07 Mar 2010 18:08:38 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NoIo9-0001D3-8S for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 07 Mar 2010 10:54:21 -0500 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=40262 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NoIo7-0001Ax-20 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 07 Mar 2010 10:54:20 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NoIo5-0004Ud-Mn for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 07 Mar 2010 10:54:18 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:46115) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NoIo5-0004UW-Kr for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 07 Mar 2010 10:54:17 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NoIRa-0001qN-6t; Sun, 07 Mar 2010 10:31:02 -0500 X-Loop: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-From: Vasily Korytov Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2010 15:31:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Emacs-PR-Message: followup 5684 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 5684-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B5684.12679758397080 (code B ref 5684); Sun, 07 Mar 2010 15:31:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 5684) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Mar 2010 15:30:39 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NoIRB-0001q9-7D for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 07 Mar 2010 10:30:39 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-fx0-f228.google.com ([209.85.220.228]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NoI7x-0001hB-5w for 5684@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 07 Mar 2010 10:10:47 -0500 Original-Received: by fxm28 with SMTP id 28so4757979fxm.39 for <5684@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sun, 07 Mar 2010 07:10:39 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.239.181.71 with SMTP id l7mr322043hbg.172.1267974639435; Sun, 07 Mar 2010 07:10:39 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <87ocj1uxxs.fsf@mail.jurta.org> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 6a8bfcb779d24515 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 07 Mar 2010 10:30:36 -0500 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Resent-Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2010 10:31:02 -0500 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 07 Mar 2010 18:08:03 -0500 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:35480 Archived-At: Actually, the replaced keyboard layout was nor =C2=ABRussian Typewriter=C2= =BB (as referred by Wikipedia, MS Windows, X.org and so on), nor anyway standartized. This was a very weird keyboard (it does not conform to _any_ standard, it seems, it was written by some person and based solely on his own opinion, what keys he would like in the upper row). Frankly, I'm against resurrecting it because of this. I don't mind resurrecting the old =C2=ABrussian-typewriter=C2=BB keyboard a= s =C2=ABrussian-dos=C2=BB or =C2=ABrussian-legacy=C2=BB, but some work needs = to be done to make it conform to the actual DOS standard (numbers in lower case, but different upper case symbols on the number keys). Unfortunately, currently I don't own such keyboard or have specs for the layout. We could make =C2=ABrussian-legacy=C2=BB keyboard basing on the Xorg ru[legacy= ] layout instead. Semen, could you have a look on the Xorg ru[legacy] layout and say, would that layout satisfy you? --=20 DESKPOT-RIPN