From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Dmitry Gutov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Rename "window" to "pane" (after Emacs 27) Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2020 20:29:36 +0300 Message-ID: <6199ad67-32c8-f00d-7134-dd114ef4f129@yandex.ru> References: <878sjgbbot.fsf@oitofelix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="68316"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.4.1 To: sds@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Apr 08 19:30:30 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jMEWz-000HhL-Ob for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 08 Apr 2020 19:30:29 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39054 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jMEWy-00028o-QT for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 08 Apr 2020 13:30:28 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:50388) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jMEWE-0001Hh-P7 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Apr 2020 13:29:44 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1jMEWD-0007gL-Pd for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Apr 2020 13:29:42 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-wr1-x434.google.com ([2a00:1450:4864:20::434]:45808) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1jMEWD-0007fW-Gy; Wed, 08 Apr 2020 13:29:41 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-wr1-x434.google.com with SMTP id v5so8776500wrp.12; Wed, 08 Apr 2020 10:29:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=sender:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:in-reply-to:content-language:content-transfer-encoding; bh=f4yyNPrmtQ4IcMwPp1h8OK9Dp6i2/ndlLTpto8aOjYI=; b=ZoJuYWXrU6wxVQR1d51+KJ/gaF22LOMQH4mlX7YR0wfcp6Va5tEjY/V2YGogEQr19O 9cGUbsOzdUVw7+5fzPizh1TO5ObW9H0c+KQ0ickH+DxhesIDODldwH/5aqtVbaVgTbrf Q2baPkSVJ3JWpusu+sGvitRpaC2lsfyrcUhv63hLPzqEBZtaD0liqiwVr4xXrIuQwidb Loz+zMlsAgNLouXuwX29HpW67OS+p6gjL8eyng+rPaRf1+hRP8K6bei62nH1qOjmL+sp 1AYoZ8gx9gFS+QM25qJxrLdR7kYiSBw+M2s7Kh7ZLICtFrALKms8VmnMHcaQjij6av+K zbFw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:sender:subject:to:references:from:message-id :date:user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-language :content-transfer-encoding; bh=f4yyNPrmtQ4IcMwPp1h8OK9Dp6i2/ndlLTpto8aOjYI=; b=kiYPvycz+1vEnv2U8Mzweref0vs6uZHNpr2ma5sWSTdhuTsCp8I0qy84DlQO4/jmY4 6FjLM2/el28amEECKTy5/tHF5UNm6EGswb3VjmGcy0NwjO7/X3pdg+kmtEJpwkRqEr2H IAKg9sj0txG8nP1ZW/+piJRrtLaMyxc6YKKmOC6v6aa8G8PbcL9qT6CfGb0JMehqbBSd i1ltdP82EcX9dSTEKHV4aVcQt8M+Vbcz/MtDAx+i6iNtcExpbgJb2UKnwayippWXH/Gm /slR5in9JVfvDRet63eNOo1rDMC36yhcCOm0Ug2DSlqVbZ/USJ5XRUkiqqEqvl/1FzpR 2/hg== X-Gm-Message-State: AGi0Puby7v1I060m8XPZ7KWXX3+hlpV36JJo26U8/Sz7JX93VynqB0HI sTWA8mIAZj/rDo1dC8BsogIONCK77QQ= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APiQypLr65edekkRS+wyUg95wmDpXW2goXyksODzFpDCHZkAT0NieJ7w2Txs5zgVfWsdrQGhV4iYDA== X-Received: by 2002:adf:9564:: with SMTP id 91mr1091290wrs.246.1586366979836; Wed, 08 Apr 2020 10:29:39 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from [192.168.0.2] ([66.205.73.129]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id v7sm36666820wrs.96.2020.04.08.10.29.38 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 08 Apr 2020 10:29:38 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: Content-Language: en-US X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:4864:20::434 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:246683 Archived-At: On 08.04.2020 18:34, Sam Steingold wrote: >>> By then it is quite possible that the whole "window manager" >>> paradigm will be obsolete as more and more computing is done >>> on mobile devices with full-screen-only windows, where the >>> current Emacs terminology makes more sense. >> Do you imagine Emacs would use one-window-per-frame by them? > Of course not. > What made you think that?! Ah, ok, I think I see your point. Still, even 10 years later we'll have a lot of users remember what "window" means now. And they will be just as fine with the "pane" terminology, I'm sure.