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Peter Blicher" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#41570: 26.3; dired chown Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2020 09:43:58 -0700 Message-ID: <6153cdf9-b69b-cb2a-4eec-834d064bf992@comcast.net> References: <83ftbksgmn.fsf@gnu.org> <837dtauiyg.fsf@gnu.org> <831rjgraw5.fsf@gnu.org> <83r1rfng1i.fsf@gnu.org> <9ef9006c-ed60-3a30-1ad7-31f38d5f2d99@comcast.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="30016"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.4.0 Cc: stefan@marxist.se, 41570@debbugs.gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Sep 08 18:45:44 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kFgkZ-0007e0-Of for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 08 Sep 2020 18:45:43 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56854 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kFgkY-00037d-Lu for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 08 Sep 2020 12:45:42 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:50052) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kFgju-0002DL-Fq for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Sep 2020 12:45:02 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:44677) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kFgju-0002Zh-1V for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Sep 2020 12:45:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kFgjt-0001W9-SV for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Sep 2020 12:45:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: "A. 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Right now the message I get is "chown not supported on this system" The ambiguity is (a) sorry, we haven't gotten around to implementing that yet, vs (b) Your OS version doesn't provide the functionality to do it. It wouldn't probably hurt to say "Try the Windows command line command 'takeown.' --peter On 9/7/2020 7:54 PM, Richard Stallman wrote: > [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] > [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] > [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > > It's already the case in emacs > > that trying to do chown in Dired under Windows yields an error message. > > My suggestion is to adjust the error message so that it clearly explains > the situation. > > Many programs sometimes report an error with an error message > that doesn't tell the user what is wrong. It is worth some effort > to make our error messages explain clearly to users what the problem is > and what caused it. That way, they can tell what to do. >