From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Platon Pronko Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Is there a way to avoid clobbering minibuffer by messages? Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2023 14:24:55 +0800 Message-ID: <612cf8b3-9dea-a487-893d-241728f71944@gmail.com> References: <3f004ca9-1f71-2c5b-17f1-e154f209e6d3@gmail.com> <83ilei62o6.fsf@gnu.org> <8d94bd37-d657-cf14-c0cb-372cde983ee0@gmail.com> <837cuy5y2m.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="17004"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.9.0 Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Gregory Heytings , Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Mar 31 08:25:49 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pi8Cp-0004FV-DD for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 31 Mar 2023 08:25:47 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pi8CE-0007dT-5o; Fri, 31 Mar 2023 02:25:10 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pi8C8-0007dB-Dp for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 31 Mar 2023 02:25:04 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-pj1-x1030.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4864:20::1030]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pi8C6-0002IN-Ni; Fri, 31 Mar 2023 02:25:04 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-pj1-x1030.google.com with SMTP id x15so19515184pjk.2; Thu, 30 Mar 2023 23:25:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; t=1680243900; x=1682835900; h=content-transfer-encoding:in-reply-to:from:references:cc:to :content-language:subject:user-agent:mime-version:date:message-id :from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=SgxTzZCBnYES8qp6hnCfENQ/1WiNNzjA/bHgKHDnJNI=; b=Ez8TZMASJ19V8NNV9299rCR/R/P3SM5+YfODknSccovo5VDu625fndshjOgzeAuO3E GFC5eYH4R/3wm16JQHLhafDXsF6Cj+dtMLvWWS2Hiy3U8kMmkOOE8KdyXtXptvWOc6PY N7gqF0tee46Bbp0Z7xX7o9/QGq2dI3awAKFn6UraSimouorBzZBrO7BdarcgR65R6FhN EBER1yAnqgHaIVQEmWJFsT3/kJGTF2yocJP5SiJ6uLFe/hZEj/GfqF9PCJR/wXV3nuai 8m7ZH7wK9TgTZ2ynSbCPRMJMHlOzm6a2HJ0qkRb+/fzmR/xf/rgf08aORU7+4MzC2Vz1 JlCg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; t=1680243900; x=1682835900; h=content-transfer-encoding:in-reply-to:from:references:cc:to :content-language:subject:user-agent:mime-version:date:message-id :x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=SgxTzZCBnYES8qp6hnCfENQ/1WiNNzjA/bHgKHDnJNI=; b=BNjMJ0KpyCSlapqVBA9k5XYjn2xUHxWxVh1coQpQdPyVaiMzwUMABcXkSksmtnjd/+ sMWY0vUMtHsG5L3L/wt6NHfKyHGhLtzxYPQ3zbkf0drJTEeldMSTKddTD33welV0TSAX vxBwlRaGIWlDrUQndQ6ruz96J/kWpfg3IK1W7N+tzw0mMD7TNZNQy0vRK7g2iFmP5wqb bcLcry9gIVDXXAo88rpI/6QskJM0l5XK7rjiAUS5XfszV5l27TldaXZ5/R9BmRyoggTE FN+GmYCW86jYTT+qN30mFFaOQCJSJ6DsiORZisxYp0r9yNNMjA16igpqJDw2mrrW0r/V J7KQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AAQBX9cqtq4yUzGZIFh4hPr5M1O5+AENEwU5JJQKJ+Q1jna97wjLdh/q fddiuYqWYBu45LLvT9qzu7TDNIzPYXWmaw== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AKy350bgV+6HDb1N/pQyzxwppFpWFvNzK5sxhsA7wjL4SUM/MLBogSOxYklx0OUJkZsKhbTTtc55Pw== X-Received: by 2002:a17:903:748:b0:19e:5cc3:828f with SMTP id kl8-20020a170903074800b0019e5cc3828fmr3713717plb.27.1680243900187; Thu, 30 Mar 2023 23:25:00 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from [192.170.1.133] ([103.24.106.35]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id o10-20020a1709026b0a00b001a0448731c2sm761483plk.47.2023.03.30.23.24.58 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 30 Mar 2023 23:24:59 -0700 (PDT) Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2607:f8b0:4864:20::1030; envelope-from=platon7pronko@gmail.com; helo=mail-pj1-x1030.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, NICE_REPLY_A=-0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:143170 Archived-At: On 2023-03-30 23:05, Gregory Heytings wrote: > >> >> If that is what you see, then it's the intended behavior.  That you are not used to it doesn't mean it's incorrect or broken. Functionally, it does the job, and we don't have any better alternatives for the case when a message should be shown when the minibuffer is active. >> > > It's true that we don't have any better _built-in_ alternatives, but I think what the OP wants is something like the code in the attached file. Actually no, I don't think I would want to put messages into the modeline. As I understand it I have multiple modelines on my screen - one for each window, and that would be unnecessary duplication of information. Thanks for the code, though - I'm sure that would be useful to somebody (I suspect many people won't be as opposed to putting echo messages into the mode line as I am). -- Best regards, Platon Pronko PGP 2A62D77A7A2CB94E