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X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:4864:20::335 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:241298 Archived-At: On 20.10.2019 8:45, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > Why not? It would be very unusual and inconvenient for a major mode > to require that it be manually turned on to be useful. Like I explained, it wouldn't have to be turned on manually. In any case, the subset of such files that people routinely edit manually isn't big. > That's why I said this issue needs to be investigated and the > conclusions posted and discussed, before we can design a coherent > feature to support such files. Doing that in a hurry, based on a > single incident and only on some vague ideas what other aspects of > these files may need handling, doesn't sound wise to me, especially as > the rest of the issues, whatever they are, cannot be urgent, judging > by the lack of complaints. It is indeed not urgent. I think it's an argument to postpone the proposed change (new major mode and stuff) until after Emacs 27. But not against doing it in general.