From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Howard Melman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#54962: 28.1; insert-directory-program should be ls-program Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2022 15:56:58 -0400 Message-ID: <60DE91A7-8152-44D7-8445-7ED268CA1E5B@gmail.com> References: <83r15y15yp.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 14.0 \(3654.120.0.1.13\)) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="9552"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 54962@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Apr 15 21:58:39 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nfS5T-0002Ea-MZ for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 15 Apr 2022 21:58:35 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:34820 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nfS5S-00081b-FK for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 15 Apr 2022 15:58:34 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:50684) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nfS4x-00081K-D6 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 15 Apr 2022 15:58:05 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:38238) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nfS4w-0004Bb-6w for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 15 Apr 2022 15:58:03 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nfS4v-0008El-Um for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 15 Apr 2022 15:58:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Howard Melman Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2022 19:58:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 54962 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 54962-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B54962.165005263031597 (code B ref 54962); Fri, 15 Apr 2022 19:58:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 54962) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Apr 2022 19:57:10 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60368 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nfS46-0008DZ-4R for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 15 Apr 2022 15:57:10 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-qv1-f41.google.com ([209.85.219.41]:41734) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nfS42-0008D2-Aq for 54962@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 15 Apr 2022 15:57:08 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-qv1-f41.google.com with SMTP id a10so7066836qvm.8 for <54962@debbugs.gnu.org>; Fri, 15 Apr 2022 12:57:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=x4owLUMHsUBn8gwYc3Xnez3X5dTlRgpleCajmz5GSPg=; b=J2H7t/OkncOIdhEE/QheZ7MqwHrNooG+h0ACDND+Taky2uhXsY6AjiZhLBkLp7GGRR JpOSCWwbL7s+j2vDp835A1EfkOiBpOjg/cFrys/2Jx6X7G4C+CQ5WBSe7fgioh73lbx9 UF4Jqj0bmC7DHxAMVHGkqc4OP+969bIBLK+hfVJQmdwDtJjb8S4oRoAgnd91UGXh4ANX A+C7L1FlsrGZU5zwjE5BDy4p3aWvSgZHmcgimX5cIiCFNIHD6tnrVMbDsiPSH5w+AMjD 4kNT/qjKrlxdmFIphGmxvu4vxWNlvdRNm8dh8sd32BeocI7lvilY/eAV1kGlzEtKZ+f/ 5jWg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=x4owLUMHsUBn8gwYc3Xnez3X5dTlRgpleCajmz5GSPg=; b=TesOZ8EsCpn0mGLiMMQ1LqRk4uAKvKtnjhkXXJL9vrE09v18cXlHZpduVywdwLACnG FrvbGR+u9Pr2koFmcBLQerHWpbCykz+z2M0U2/Muuk6ZH+hTtlK1HrNMKlmWSmX78jG0 sSkTn9ksjqkPfKdPke9jG8ugqLRqaep3tM1w5EkVLrSNQV61cTqh6eSBU1zq0RbaA9Fy ADYhUF7qLfGDx32Ji0vxEgglnEtky8/gTalPpDy3mEmCQThI7LMtAfmzEa48baZspHgb l1dVqBahlw8w+B9owKaRNaQlhx1Po98uhAtzg4oKqj7uwFgcllju6cJdBesVrDDBelfl FGEA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM5329y+dWApZ7GtVlx8EVr/SXBa4Toh/daeX7GLYd81EYR9zhpdyV iZiVNAhMu870JyaGbdW6ulh6s95Yn/0DMA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJwGwcAzLPAgzGgDlpXtavU/NhPOug4TBkRpEc/aKgxQ6ItjqTHc44g325OhDrPPP7HOXvISvg== X-Received: by 2002:a05:6214:21a7:b0:441:1434:eafd with SMTP id t7-20020a05621421a700b004411434eafdmr395709qvc.77.1650052620615; Fri, 15 Apr 2022 12:57:00 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from smtpclient.apple (pool-108-26-204-101.bstnma.fios.verizon.net. [108.26.204.101]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id a7-20020a05622a064700b002e238d6db02sm3570203qtb.54.2022.04.15.12.56.59 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 15 Apr 2022 12:57:00 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <83r15y15yp.fsf@gnu.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3654.120.0.1.13) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:229947 Archived-At: > On Apr 15, 2022, at 3:50 PM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > No one said it has to be 'ls'. It can be anything else, as long as it > produces the same output. > >> There are several dozen such variables >> and they all follow a similar more discoverable naming >> pattern as this sample: > > Those are much more specific. Could you explain how these are more specific than something else "as long as it produces the same out"? I don't follow the distinction you're drawing. Howard