Emacs23.app menus not working?

Emacs23.app menus not working?

[Jonathan Groll]

I have an odd issue with Emacs23.app on OS X that may be as a
consequence of how I built the program or may be a real bug:

/usr/pkg/Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/MacOS/Emacs -q

is used to launch the program, the menu items at the top of the screen
do not pull down - these are the menu items: "Emacs File Edit Options
Tools Buffers Windows Help". Of these only "Emacs" and "Help" produce
a menu when you click on them. This seems to be regardless of whether
my .emacs is loaded or not (ie. without the -q, or through launching
the program normally in finder).

Is this an issue others experience? If not it may be as a consequence
of how I built the package (from pkgsrc's wip/emacs-current with
PKG_OPTIONS.emacs_current= nextstep), or perhaps it is from aquamacs
being present?

GNU Emacs 23.0.91.1 (i386-apple-darwin9, NS apple-appkit-949.43) of
2009-03-26 on badapple.groll.co.za

Regards,
Jonathan Groll

Re: Emacs23.app menus not working?

[Nikolaj Schumacher]

Jonathan Groll <lists@groll.co.za> wrote:

> Is this an issue others experience?

I've been using recent CVS versions and haven't seen this.

regards,
Nikolaj Schumacher

Re: Emacs23.app menus not working?

[Peter Dyballa]

Am 27.03.2009 um 10:17 schrieb Jonathan Groll:

> I have an odd issue with Emacs23.app on OS X that may be as a
> consequence of how I built the program or may be a real bug:
>
> /usr/pkg/Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/MacOS/Emacs -q


I can't confirm this issue from Mac OS X 10.4.11, Tiger, with a PPC CPU:

	In GNU Emacs 23.0.91.1 (powerpc-apple-darwin8.11.0, NS apple- 
appkit-824.48)
	 of 2009-03-27 on Latsche.local
	Windowing system distributor `Apple', version 10.3.824
	configured using `configure  '--without-sound' '--without-pop' '-- 
with-dbus' '--with-libotf' '--with-ns' '--disable-ns-self-contained'  
'--x-includes=/opt/local/include' '--x-libraries=/opt/local/lib' '-- 
enable-locallisppath=/Library/Application Support/Emacs/calendar23:/ 
Library/Application Support/Emacs' 'PKG_CONFIG_PATH=/opt/local/lib/ 
pkgconfig:/usr/local/lib/pkgconfig:/usr/lib/pkgconfig' 'CPPFLAGS=-no- 
cpp-precomp' 'CFLAGS=-Wno-pointer-sign -H -pipe -fPIC -mcpu=7450 - 
mtune=7450 -fast -mpim-altivec -ftree-vectorize -foptimize-register- 
move -freorder-blocks -freorder-blocks-and-partition -fthread-jumps - 
fpeephole -fno-crossjumping' 'LDFLAGS=-dead_strip -multiply_defined  
suppress''

It uses libraries from MacPorts. Before I was using those from Fink.  
Which libraries is your version using (otool -L /usr/pkg/Applications/ 
Emacs.app/Contents/MacOS/Emacs)?

--
Greetings

   Pete

The human brain operates at only 10% of its capacity. The rest is  
overhead for the operating system.

Re: Emacs23.app menus not working?

[Jonathan Groll]

On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 12:22:52PM +0100, Peter Dyballa wrote:
>
> Am 27.03.2009 um 10:17 schrieb Jonathan Groll:
>
>> I have an odd issue with Emacs23.app on OS X that may be as a
>> consequence of how I built the program or may be a real bug:
>>
>> /usr/pkg/Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/MacOS/Emacs -q

I *think* I've managed to track down this fix this problem - it seems
to be synergy! My mac is a synergy client to a linux machine - so I
use the linux keyboard and mouse to control the macbook.

synergys & synergyc are both version 1.3.1, protocol version 1.3

> I can't confirm this issue from Mac OS X 10.4.11, Tiger, with a PPC CPU:
>
> 	In GNU Emacs 23.0.91.1 (powerpc-apple-darwin8.11.0, NS apple- 
> appkit-824.48)
> 	 of 2009-03-27 on Latsche.local
> 	Windowing system distributor `Apple', version 10.3.824
> 	configured using `configure  '--without-sound' '--without-pop' '-- 
> with-dbus' '--with-libotf' '--with-ns' '--disable-ns-self-contained'  
> '--x-includes=/opt/local/include' '--x-libraries=/opt/local/lib' '-- 
> enable-locallisppath=/Library/Application Support/Emacs/calendar23:/ 
> Library/Application Support/Emacs' 'PKG_CONFIG_PATH=/opt/local/lib/ 
> pkgconfig:/usr/local/lib/pkgconfig:/usr/lib/pkgconfig' 'CPPFLAGS=-no- 
> cpp-precomp' 'CFLAGS=-Wno-pointer-sign -H -pipe -fPIC -mcpu=7450 - 
> mtune=7450 -fast -mpim-altivec -ftree-vectorize -foptimize-register-move 
> -freorder-blocks -freorder-blocks-and-partition -fthread-jumps - 
> fpeephole -fno-crossjumping' 'LDFLAGS=-dead_strip -multiply_defined  
> suppress''
>
> It uses libraries from MacPorts. Before I was using those from Fink.  
> Which libraries is your version using (otool -L /usr/pkg/Applications/ 
> Emacs.app/Contents/MacOS/Emacs)?

Interestingly enough the libraries listed by otool -L all do NOT come
from pkgsrc:
otool -L /usr/pkg/Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/MacOS/Emacs 
/usr/pkg/Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/MacOS/Emacs:
	/System/Library/Frameworks/AppKit.framework/Versions/C/AppKit
	(compatibility version 45.0.0, current version 949.43.0)
	/usr/lib/libncurses.5.4.dylib (compatibility version 5.4.0,
	current version 5.4.0)
	/usr/lib/libgcc_s.1.dylib (compatibility version 1.0.0,
	current version 1.0.0)
	/usr/lib/libSystem.B.dylib (compatibility version 1.0.0,
	current version 111.1.3)
	/System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Versions/A/CoreServices
	(compatibility version 1.0.0, current version 32.0.0)
	/usr/lib/libobjc.A.dylib (compatibility version 1.0.0, current
	version 227.0.0)
	/System/Library/Frameworks/CoreFoundation.framework/Versions/A/CoreFoundation
	(compatibility version 150.0.0, current version 476.17.0)
	/System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/ApplicationServices
	(compatibility version 1.0.0, current version 34.0.0)
	/System/Library/Frameworks/Foundation.framework/Versions/C/Foundation
	(compatibility version 300.0.0, current version 677.22.0)

One more thing, the previous version of Emacs23.0.60 (2008/12/04) that
I was using had a working Preferences menu (Command-,) - i.e. the
preferences menu was specific to Cocoa Emacs and had options such as
swapping the Command and Meta keys. The version I built yesterday
(23.0.91.1) opens up a *Customize Group: Emacs* buffer instead of the
cocoa specific preferences window.

Do others experience this too?

Regards,
Jonathan

Re: Emacs23.app menus not working?

[Peter Dyballa]

Am 27.03.2009 um 15:20 schrieb Jonathan Groll:

> Do others experience this too?


Yes! This change is a month or two old (I didn't notice it, next  
Emacs.app worked as before). The mechanism behind these preferences  
was too general, overriding settings from the real init files. And  
not offering a method to edit them (removal rather impossible). See  
nextstep/ChangeLog!

The libraries of my Emacs.app:

	/System/Library/Frameworks/AppKit.framework/Versions/C/AppKit  
(compatibility version 45.0.0, current version 824.48.0)
	/opt/local/lib/librsvg-2.2.dylib (compatibility version 25.0.0,  
current version 25.3.0)
	/opt/local/lib/libgdk_pixbuf-2.0.0.dylib (compatibility version  
1401.0.0, current version 1401.7.0)
	/opt/local/lib/libcairo.2.dylib (compatibility version 10803.0.0,  
current version 10803.6.0)
	/opt/local/lib/libgobject-2.0.0.dylib (compatibility version  
1801.0.0, current version 1801.3.0)
	/opt/local/lib/libgmodule-2.0.0.dylib (compatibility version  
1801.0.0, current version 1801.3.0)
	/opt/local/lib/libglib-2.0.0.dylib (compatibility version 1801.0.0,  
current version 1801.3.0)
	/opt/local/lib/libintl.8.dylib (compatibility version 9.0.0, current  
version 9.2.0)
	/opt/local/lib/libdbus-1.3.dylib (compatibility version 8.0.0,  
current version 8.0.0)
	/opt/local/lib/libncurses.5.dylib (compatibility version 5.0.0,  
current version 5.0.0)
	/usr/lib/libgcc_s.1.dylib (compatibility version 1.0.0, current  
version 1.0.0)
	/usr/lib/libSystem.B.dylib (compatibility version 1.0.0, current  
version 88.1.12)

Because of librsvg some GTK stuff is needed. Libdbus might be useless  
in Aqua ... and libintl too? Emacs.app does not need much from  
outside the Mac OS X frameworks which have PNG, TIFF, GIF, JPEG  
support (and in WebKit there is SVG support: Safari displays  
splash.svg and other GNU Emacs particles). Support for X windows/ 
netpbm is emulated.

--
Greetings

   Pete

Increase the size of your bike by at least *five* inches!

Re: Emacs23.app menus not working?

[Ian Eure]

On Mar 27, 2009, at 2:17 AM, Jonathan Groll wrote:
>
> Is this an issue others experience? If not it may be as a consequence
> of how I built the package (from pkgsrc's wip/emacs-current with
> PKG_OPTIONS.emacs_current= nextstep), or perhaps it is from aquamacs
> being present?
>
I've seen it from time to time with my NS CVS builds. If I switch  
buffers and/or frames, I can come back and they work again.

Also, if you open a file via Tramp and try to pull down the Options  
menu, Emacs crashes. Reported this a while back, but I don't know if  
it ever made it through.

  - Ian