From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: storm@cua.dk (Kim F. Storm) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Enhancements to options menu (was Re: Reveal mode) Date: 04 May 2002 01:54:13 +0200 Sender: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: <5xwuuk6b4q.fsf@kfs2.cua.dk> References: <200204302119.g3ULJAP06813@aztec.santafe.edu> <5xznzj30j0.fsf_-_@kfs2.cua.dk> <200205031825.g43IP3e00651@aztec.santafe.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1020466478 604 127.0.0.1 (3 May 2002 22:54:38 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 22:54:38 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Pavel@Janik.cz, emacs-devel@gnu.org Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 173lwj-00009d-00 for ; Sat, 04 May 2002 00:54:37 +0200 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([199.232.76.164]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 173m2d-000688-00 for ; Sat, 04 May 2002 01:00:44 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 173lwT-0003ZL-00; Fri, 03 May 2002 18:54:21 -0400 Original-Received: from mail.filanet.dk ([195.215.206.179]) by fencepost.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 173lvf-0003Sr-00; Fri, 03 May 2002 18:53:31 -0400 Original-Received: from kfs2.cua.dk.cua.dk (unknown [10.1.82.3]) by mail.filanet.dk (Postfix) with SMTP id 07E227C048; Fri, 3 May 2002 22:53:26 +0000 (GMT) Original-To: rms@gnu.org In-Reply-To: <200205031825.g43IP3e00651@aztec.santafe.edu> Original-Lines: 24 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.2.50 Errors-To: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.9 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:3556 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:3556 Richard Stallman writes: > I think that we should consider adding a few more sub-menues > to the Options menu to make more of the built-in functionality > of emacs directly selectable: > > I am strongly against that, because it embarks on a path of > duplicating the Custom facilities, one option at a time. That's ok. However, for new users, I would like to have something a little less overwhelming (and easier to browse) than the full-blown customize interface. > We should > encourage users to use that facility instead. If it is not good > enough, we should improve it. Maybe we could create a "preferences" page which contains toggles for, say, 25 commonly used options, and also a link to the customize group for that option. That would allow novice users to quickly get to some of the more advanced options of emacs. -- Kim F. Storm http://www.cua.dk