From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: storm@cua.dk (Kim F. Storm) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Enhancements to options menu (was Re: Reveal mode) Date: 06 May 2002 00:24:20 +0200 Sender: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: <5xu1pmkzcb.fsf@kfs2.cua.dk> References: <200204302119.g3ULJAP06813@aztec.santafe.edu> <5xznzj30j0.fsf_-_@kfs2.cua.dk> <200205031825.g43IP3e00651@aztec.santafe.edu> <5xwuuk6b4q.fsf@kfs2.cua.dk> <200205041501.g44F1vm01192@aztec.santafe.edu> <5xvga3ah36.fsf@kfs2.cua.dk> <200205051745.g45Hjwx01793@aztec.santafe.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1020635180 10570 127.0.0.1 (5 May 2002 21:46:20 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 5 May 2002 21:46:20 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Pavel@Janik.cz, emacs-devel@gnu.org Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 174Tpk-0002kN-00 for ; Sun, 05 May 2002 23:46:20 +0200 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([199.232.76.164]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 174Twa-0002pP-00 for ; Sun, 05 May 2002 23:53:24 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 174Tov-0000gE-00; Sun, 05 May 2002 17:45:29 -0400 Original-Received: from mail.filanet.dk ([195.215.206.179]) by fencepost.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 174TTk-0006ao-00; Sun, 05 May 2002 17:23:36 -0400 Original-Received: from kfs2.cua.dk.cua.dk (unknown [10.1.82.3]) by mail.filanet.dk (Postfix) with SMTP id 338DB7C035; Sun, 5 May 2002 21:23:32 +0000 (GMT) Original-To: rms@gnu.org In-Reply-To: <200205051745.g45Hjwx01793@aztec.santafe.edu> Original-Lines: 52 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.2.50 Errors-To: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.9 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:3612 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:3612 Richard Stallman writes: > IMO, the custom interface is overwhelming in the sense that it doesn't > really prioritize the options. > > So, if we had a command to customize a selected list of the 50 most > important options, using the existing Custom facility, would that > do the job? At least, that would be a step in the right direction.... I want a "novice" level of customization where a new emacs user can quickly get an overview of the various features offered by emacs - preferably just with one option per package ... and preferably not more complex than it can be shown in a single 24x80 window. > > Another idea: it would also be possible to sort the options in any > given Custom buffer, if we assigned them importance levels. > The more important options could come first. Agree. But I think options are shown in the sequence in which they occur in the source files.... so it is just a question of ordering them there (maybe adding a few :set-after properties). > > Another idea: the Custom buffer could show the important options for > any given topic, and end with a button Show Less-Important Options > with which you could see the rest of the options for that topic. > Perhaps we could do that whenever the number of options exceeds a > certain threshold. I don't think this is necessary... If options are shown in order of decreasing importance, I guess the user can just avoid using "page down"... > > I don't entirely understand this suggestion: > > [x] Abbreviation mode [advanced] > [x] Revert mode [advanced] > > What does "advanced" mean here? > > It would enter the corresponding custiomize-group. -- Kim F. Storm http://www.cua.dk