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From: storm@cua.dk (Kim F. Storm)
Cc: eliz@is.elta.co.il, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Apropos commands and regexps
Date: 15 May 2002 23:55:35 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5xsn4toz3c.fsf@kfs2.cua.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200205150700.g4F70rr16163@aztec.santafe.edu>

Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> writes:

>     I think giving the apropos commands a keyword based interface is a
>     good way to accomplish (a), and having an specific apropos-keywords
>     command breaks (b).
> 
> Are you suggesting all apropos commands should work by keywords
> instead of by regexps?

Instead of: no
In addition to: yes

> 
>     Your "all permutations" seems useful -- but I wonder whether it is
>     overkill...
> 
>     So my idea of just searching for any entry matching at least two keywords
>     will find all the entries found by searching for all combinations - and
>     it may find some entries the user didn't think about...
> 
> What exactly is the difference between these two alternatives?
> That isn't clear to me.

If a user enters keywords "find window mini", the first approach will
only find the entries containing all of find, window, and mini, while
the second approach will find the entries which contains two or more
of the keywords.

Using the second approach has a more "novice" appeal:
if don't know what a specific function is called, it will be
easier to enter a few more alternatives, and see what turns up.
-- it specifying more words returns more alternatives.


> 
>     The obvious problem restricting this to complete words is how to make
>     e.g. "list process" match "list-processes".
> 
> That is a good point.  We want the specified keywords to match
> subsets of words in the command name.

And if the user enters `grep', it should also match `igrep' (if that
command exists).

> 
>     I wonder if the `apropos keyword' command being discussed could maintain
>     a list of common `equivalents', and try substituting some if the
>     original apropos doesn't return anything useful (or maybe even if
>     returns only a few matches).
> 
> That is a natural extension.

Yes, I like that proposal.

> 
> Looking for an equivalent in this list should work by substring match
> too.  And if an equivalent is found, searching for it in command names
> or elsewhere should also use substring match.

I agree.

-- 
Kim F. Storm <storm@cua.dk> http://www.cua.dk

  parent reply	other threads:[~2002-05-15 21:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-05-12  0:57 Apropos commands and regexps Kim F. Storm
2002-05-12  5:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-05-12  5:38   ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-05-13  1:40   ` Miles Bader
2002-05-13 19:18     ` Kim F. Storm
2002-05-14  5:55       ` Miles Bader
2002-05-13 19:11   ` Kim F. Storm
2002-05-14  5:38     ` Miles Bader
2002-05-15  7:00     ` Richard Stallman
2002-05-15 11:23       ` Miles Bader
2002-05-15 21:59         ` Kim F. Storm
2002-05-16  1:26           ` Miles Bader
2002-05-16 22:26             ` Kim F. Storm
2002-05-16 21:38               ` Stefan Monnier
2002-05-17 11:59                 ` Kai Großjohann
2002-05-18 18:48                 ` Richard Stallman
2002-05-18 22:24                   ` Stefan Monnier
2002-05-19 12:02                     ` Kai Großjohann
2002-05-19 14:50                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-05-19 15:23                         ` Kai Großjohann
2002-05-19 19:40                     ` Richard Stallman
2002-05-19 23:33                       ` Kim F. Storm
2002-05-20  9:50                         ` Alex Schroeder
2002-05-16 21:58               ` Miles Bader
2002-05-17 12:01                 ` Kai Großjohann
2002-05-17 21:56                 ` Kim F. Storm
2002-05-18  6:31                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-05-18 22:47                   ` Stefan Monnier
2002-05-17  6:15               ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-05-17 11:58               ` Kai Großjohann
2002-05-16  4:54           ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-05-16 22:10             ` Kim F. Storm
2002-05-16 21:20               ` Miles Bader
2002-05-17  6:13                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-05-18 18:49             ` Richard Stallman
2002-05-19  4:51               ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-05-19 19:40                 ` Richard Stallman
2002-05-19 23:29                 ` Kim F. Storm
2002-05-20  3:31                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-05-16 20:24         ` Richard Stallman
2002-05-15 21:55       ` Kim F. Storm [this message]
2002-05-16  4:52         ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]           ` <5xbsbf4thx.fsf@kfs2.cua.dk>
2002-05-17  6:22             ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-05-12 10:06 ` Kai Großjohann
2002-05-12 17:03   ` Alex Schroeder
2002-05-13 19:26     ` Kim F. Storm
2002-05-14  5:26       ` Miles Bader
2002-05-16 11:04 ` Kai Großjohann
2002-05-16 12:30   ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-05-16 13:05   ` D. Goel
2002-05-16 22:37   ` Alex Schroeder
2002-05-16 22:44   ` Kim F. Storm
2002-05-17 19:28   ` Richard Stallman
2002-05-18  6:26     ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-05-19  5:30       ` Richard Stallman
2002-05-23 21:41 ` Kim F. Storm

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