From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: storm@cua.dk (Kim F. Storm) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: don't-know values for file-attributes? Date: 29 Jan 2003 11:52:14 +0100 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <5xsmvcteht.fsf@kfs2.cua.dk> References: <84u1futjyj.fsf@lucy.is.informatik.uni-duisburg.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1043834391 11130 80.91.224.249 (29 Jan 2003 09:59:51 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 09:59:51 +0000 (UTC) Cc: =?iso-8859-1?q?Kai_Gro=DFjohann?= Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18dp0U-0002sy-00 for ; Wed, 29 Jan 2003 10:59:46 +0100 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 18dp5b-0004KG-00 for ; Wed, 29 Jan 2003 11:05:03 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 18dp0F-0003xq-08 for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Wed, 29 Jan 2003 04:59:31 -0500 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 18doyV-0002wy-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 29 Jan 2003 04:57:43 -0500 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 18douA-0000mc-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 29 Jan 2003 04:53:15 -0500 Original-Received: from mail.filanet.dk ([195.215.206.179]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 18dotv-0000dE-00; Wed, 29 Jan 2003 04:52:59 -0500 Original-Received: from kfs2.cua.dk.cua.dk (kfs2.local.filanet.dk [192.168.1.182]) by mail.filanet.dk (Postfix) with SMTP id 9ACD97C012; Wed, 29 Jan 2003 10:52:57 +0100 (CET) Original-To: rms@gnu.org In-Reply-To: Original-Lines: 16 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3.50 Original-cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:11186 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:11186 Richard Stallman writes: > When a filename handler doesn't know the ctime, mtime, or atime of a > file, what should file-attributes return? Ange-FTP seems to say that > (0 0) is the way to express this. > > The clean thing to do would be to use nil for that case. That may be > an incompatible change that would require checking the callers and > changing them, but I think the number of programs that would break is > fairly small, so the change would be worth making if someone wants to > do the work. I'll fix ido.el if someone makes this change. -- Kim F. Storm http://www.cua.dk