From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: storm@cua.dk (Kim F. Storm) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Idea for determining what users use Date: 04 Jun 2003 00:24:20 +0200 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <5xsmqqby0b.fsf@kfs2.cua.dk> References: <5xk7c8m1y2.fsf@kfs2.cua.dk> <20030530230421.GA18463@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1054673560 29416 80.91.224.249 (3 Jun 2003 20:52:40 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2003 20:52:40 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Tue Jun 03 22:52:38 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19NIl7-0007bw-00 for ; Tue, 03 Jun 2003 22:51:53 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 19NJ2N-0001Pu-00 for ; Tue, 03 Jun 2003 23:09:43 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19NIjk-0003BI-EL for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Tue, 03 Jun 2003 16:50:28 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.20) id 19NIaQ-0007zO-AX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Jun 2003 16:40:50 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.20) id 19NIZC-0007Ya-TZ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Jun 2003 16:39:35 -0400 Original-Received: from mail.filanet.dk ([195.215.206.179]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19NIME-0003nJ-H0; Tue, 03 Jun 2003 16:26:10 -0400 Original-Received: from kfs2.cua.dk.cua.dk (unknown [10.1.82.3]) by mail.filanet.dk (Postfix) with SMTP id 4150C7C012; Tue, 3 Jun 2003 22:26:06 +0200 (CEST) Original-To: Miles Bader In-Reply-To: <20030530230421.GA18463@gnu.org> Original-Lines: 21 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3.50 Original-cc: rms@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:14657 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:14657 Miles Bader writes: > At best, I think you could get away with making it a feature that was off by > default, and had to be turned on explicitly -- this is obviously much worse > because doing so would skew the results highly, but it might be better than > doing polls, as the user would only have to enable it once, and wouldn't have > to bother with answering individual polls. I think this is a good approach. Of course, we should present this in a positive tone in NEWS -- something like this: You can now participate in the collection of various "package usage statistics" that will tell the emacs development team which Lisp packages are actually used. [add some blurb about privacy etc.] To participate, you need to configure the smtpmail-default-mail-server variable and then set the enable-emacs-statistics-mails variable to t. -- Kim F. Storm http://www.cua.dk