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From: storm@cua.dk (Kim F. Storm)
Cc: Kenichi Handa <handa@m17n.org>
Subject: Re: ?\_ patch
Date: 07 Feb 2003 15:52:02 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5xfzr0i1nx.fsf@kfs2.cua.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20030207132847.GA5105@gnu.org>

Miles Bader <miles@gnu.org> writes:

> On Fri, Feb 07, 2003 at 03:17:33PM +0100, Kim F. Storm wrote:
> > > > I really don't like the wierd double identity of ?\s, but I'm not sure
> > > > what alternative there is... Perhaps kim's idea (?\SPC), but with a less
> > > > ambiguous syntax, e.g., #\SPC or something.
> > > 
> > > Ah!  I completely forgot about `#' syntax.  I think it's a
> > > good idea.
> > 
> > I don't object to it, but I think it is unnecessary.
> > 
> > Why add a whole new syntax just because we need ?\s which can be added
> > with no hazzle at all?
> 
> Because #\SPC is actually pretty self-explanatory whereas ?\s isn't.

IMO, \s is just as self-explanatory as \t, \n, and \r.

> 
> > If everyone else agrees this is a good idea, I'd suggest
> > using #?SPC, #?TAB, etc.
> 
> I thought about that too, but I think #\SPC is better, because the `\' leaves
> a bit of whitespace between itself and the following character so the `SPC'
> stands out quite distinctly.  `?' on the other isn't visually distinct, so
> #?SPC looks like a bit of a muddle.
> 

Then what about simply using ?SPC, ?TAB, etc.

Today, if I eval (using C-j) the following in *scratch*, I get:

        ?S       => 83
        ?SPC     => 83
        '(?SPC)  => (83 PC)

but if I do
        M-: ? S P C RET
I get
        list: Trailing garbage following expression

so the current character syntax really is pretty obscure.

This could easily be changed to:

        ?S       => 83
        ?SPC     => 32
        '(?SPC)  => (32)

Can anyone think of existing code which will be broken by that
approach?

-- 
Kim F. Storm <storm@cua.dk> http://www.cua.dk

  reply	other threads:[~2003-02-07 14:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-02-05 20:10 ?\_ patch Edward O'Connor
2003-02-05 23:31 ` Kenichi Handa
2003-02-06  0:44   ` Luc Teirlinck
2003-02-06  1:06     ` Luc Teirlinck
2003-02-06  1:20       ` Luc Teirlinck
2003-02-06 10:04       ` Kim F. Storm
2003-02-06  9:17         ` Miles Bader
2003-02-06 11:48           ` Kim F. Storm
2003-02-06 11:37             ` Juanma Barranquero
2003-02-06 17:33             ` Luc Teirlinck
2003-02-07  2:07               ` Miles Bader
2003-02-07  2:53                 ` Luc Teirlinck
2003-02-07  8:34                   ` Miles Bader
2003-02-07  8:56                     ` Kenichi Handa
2003-02-07 14:17                       ` Kim F. Storm
2003-02-07 13:28                         ` Miles Bader
2003-02-07 14:52                           ` Kim F. Storm [this message]
2003-02-07 14:02                             ` Miles Bader
2003-02-07 14:30                               ` Dmitry Paduchikh
2003-02-07 16:07                                 ` Kim F. Storm
2003-02-07 15:53                                   ` John Paul Wallington
2003-02-07 16:50                                     ` Kim F. Storm
2003-02-07 16:23                                       ` John Paul Wallington
2003-02-08  1:44                                       ` Miles Bader
2003-02-09  2:07                                         ` Kim F. Storm
2003-02-10  1:48                                           ` Miles Bader
2003-02-07 16:09                                   ` Dmitry Paduchikh
2003-02-07 15:51                               ` Kim F. Storm
2003-02-07 15:13                                 ` Damien Elmes
2003-02-07 20:20                                   ` Luc Teirlinck
2003-02-09 12:39                               ` Richard Stallman
2003-02-10 10:47                             ` Andreas Schwab
2003-02-07  9:18             ` Richard Stallman
2003-02-07 10:42               ` Kim F. Storm
2003-02-07 11:05                 ` Andreas Schwab
2003-02-10 10:35                 ` Richard Stallman
2003-02-10 12:51                   ` Kim F. Storm
2003-02-11 22:25                     ` Richard Stallman
2003-02-12 13:00                       ` Kim F. Storm
2003-02-13 10:08                         ` Richard Stallman
2003-02-13 14:19                           ` Kim F. Storm
2003-02-06  1:31     ` Kenichi Handa
2003-02-06 10:40       ` Andreas Schwab

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