From: storm@cua.dk (Kim F. Storm)
Cc: Stefan Monnier <monnier+gnu/emacs@rum.cs.yale.edu>
Subject: Re: Can we add a check to see if user is using old or obsolete code?
Date: 22 Feb 2003 00:20:32 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <5xel619q67.fsf@kfs2.cua.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E18mKxz-0005v0-00@fencepost.gnu.org>
Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> writes:
> You can also use
>
> (eval-after-load 'cua
> '(if (boundp 'CUA-some-obsolete-var)
> (error "You are using an obsolete version of CUA.")))
>
> Does this assume that the old version of cua has some variable
> that has been removed? It looks that way.
It was just one way to detect older versions; I guess each package
would have specific ways to differentiate old and current versions.
>
> Perhaps in the case of cua this is true; perhaps some variable was
> removed from cua. But if we want this to be a general method, it
> should not depend on there being a variable or function that was
> removed. If there was no other reason to remove one, it would
> not be good to remove one just to do this.
I agree in general, but for CUA, the current version is more or less a
complete rewrite, so there are many variables and functions that were
removed in the process. But for CUA, I actually found that the old
versions provide `CUA-mode' while the new version doesn't, so I don't
need any additional test; just (eval-after-load 'CUA-mode (error ...))
does the trick.
>
> It would be better to do
>
> (eval-after-load 'cua
> '(unless (fboundp 'CUA-some-new-func)
> (error "You are using an obsolete version of CUA")))
>
> You can always add a new function in the new version,
> and if you do so merely so that you can add this error message,
> that is not a problem.
But if the user is using CUA version 1.2, it doesn't provide CUA-mode
or any other symbol, so the eval-after-load method will only be able
to check post 1.2 versions.
My original proposal to use a check-compat-hook would be able to check
for the 1.2 version too, but it would have to do that by checking for
the existence of a variable or function which was defined in 1.2 (and
all of 1.x and 2.x), but not in the current rewritten version.
>
> (Remember that error messages should not end with periods.)
I know the general rule, but for a multi-sentence error message, it
seems strange not to terminate the last sentence with a period.
Since I will except that MANY users upgrading to 21.4 will be using
older versions of CUA, I decided to give a more elaborate error
message. Here is the complete text:
--------------------
CUA-mode is now part of the standard GNU Emacs distribution,
so you may now enable and customize CUA via the Options menu.
Your .emacs loads an older version of CUA-mode which does
not work correctly with this version of GNU Emacs.
To correct this, remove the loading and customization of the
old version from the /home/kfs/.emacs file.
--------------------
Should I remove the final period here?
--
Kim F. Storm <storm@cua.dk> http://www.cua.dk
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2003-02-21 23:20 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2003-02-20 21:03 Can we add a check to see if user is using old or obsolete code? Kim F. Storm
2003-02-20 20:26 ` Stefan Monnier
2003-02-20 22:04 ` Kim F. Storm
2003-02-21 21:44 ` Richard Stallman
2003-02-21 23:20 ` Kim F. Storm [this message]
2003-02-22 0:28 ` Miles Bader
2003-02-22 22:37 ` Kim F. Storm
2003-02-22 17:54 ` Richard Stallman
2003-02-20 21:29 ` Kai Großjohann
2003-02-21 0:35 ` Kim F. Storm
2003-02-21 16:41 ` Kai Großjohann
2003-02-22 8:15 ` Richard Stallman
2003-02-23 11:06 ` Kai Großjohann
2003-02-24 16:38 ` Richard Stallman
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