From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: storm@cua.dk (Kim F. Storm) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs manual desribes keyboard macros in the wrong section. Date: 27 Feb 2003 12:10:20 +0100 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <5x65r6q8rn.fsf@kfs2.cua.dk> References: <5xheart32c.fsf@kfs2.cua.dk> <200302261901.NAA03553@moose.dms.auburn.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1046340786 15373 80.91.224.249 (27 Feb 2003 10:13:06 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 10:13:06 +0000 (UTC) Cc: storm@cua.dk Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18oL2F-0003zm-00 for ; Thu, 27 Feb 2003 11:13:03 +0100 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 18oLJ6-0002tU-00 for ; Thu, 27 Feb 2003 11:30:28 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 18oL1G-0000Zz-05 for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Thu, 27 Feb 2003 05:12:02 -0500 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 18oL0t-0000Fo-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 27 Feb 2003 05:11:39 -0500 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 18oL0h-00088q-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 27 Feb 2003 05:11:27 -0500 Original-Received: from mail.filanet.dk ([195.215.206.179]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 18oL0a-0007rC-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 27 Feb 2003 05:11:20 -0500 Original-Received: from kfs2.cua.dk.cua.dk (kfs2.local.filanet.dk [192.168.1.182]) by mail.filanet.dk (Postfix) with SMTP id 7FEFB7C018; Thu, 27 Feb 2003 11:11:18 +0100 (CET) Original-To: Luc Teirlinck In-Reply-To: <200302261901.NAA03553@moose.dms.auburn.edu> Original-Lines: 28 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3.50 Original-cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:12001 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:12001 Luc Teirlinck writes: > Kim Storm wrote: > > The keyboard macro feature is currently described under customizations > (in custom.texi), but IMO keyboard macros are not customizations > (unless you name them etc. which I believe is not the typical use of > keyboard macros). In my experience, the typical use of keyboard > macros is for doing repeated editing similar to "search and replace". > > In my opinion it would certainly be appropriate to give keyboard > macros their own chapter once their discussion has reached an > appropriate size. They are important enough to motivate that. > ... most Emacs users are not Elisp programmers. For > somebody who does not know Elisp, keyboard macros are an important > customization and extension tool. I agree, and moving it out of the customization chapter which talks about variables and other "lisp-like" stuff will probably make more non-Elisp programmers aware of it. > Keyboard macros used as such tend > to get named and saved in .emacs. I could still add directions to the section on .emacs to describe how one can save keyboard macros in .emacs (either as named commands or as key bindings).