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>>>>> "Peter" == Peter S Galbraith <psg@debian.org> writes:
> feature').  But what is the rationale behind the loading of a package
> having no visisble effect?  If the only purpose of a package is to

A package might be loaded implicitly by something like `customize'
just to get the list of groups/variables it offers.  You wouldn't
want to turn a feature ON just because you're browsing some of the
related variables (you might even be browsing something that you didn't
know was related).

>      (require 'bar-cursor)
>      (bar-cursor-mode 1)
> instead of only:
>      (require 'bar-cursor)

It should be only

   (bar-cursor-mode 1)

because bar-cursor-mode should be autoloaded.


        Stefan