From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Stefan Monnier" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Coding Convections - Enabling a feature by loading a file Date: 04 Jun 2003 21:02:49 -0400 Organization: Yale University Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <5lbrxdgwue.fsf@rum.cs.yale.edu> References: <5lsmqph7g6.fsf@rum.cs.yale.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1054778693 30101 80.91.224.249 (5 Jun 2003 02:04:53 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2003 02:04:53 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jun 05 04:04:44 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19Nk7P-0007oq-00 for ; Thu, 05 Jun 2003 04:04:43 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19Nk8I-00042g-L5 for gnu-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 04 Jun 2003 22:05:38 -0400 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!news.wss.yale.edu!rum.cs.yale.edu!rum.cs.yale.edu Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 22 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: rum.cs.yale.edu Original-X-Trace: news.wss.yale.edu 1054774972 3972 128.36.229.169 (5 Jun 2003 01:02:52 GMT) Original-X-Complaints-To: news@news.wss.yale.edu Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2003 01:02:52 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3.50 X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: rum.cs.yale.edu X-Original-Trace: 4 Jun 2003 21:02:49 -0400, rum.cs.yale.edu Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:114155 Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:10649 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:10649 > But this is only true if autoloads are generated. Is it standard > practice to do that for files added to someones site directory or for a > user under $HOME? I know I've never done that (I might start now that I > think of it). It's true that it's rarely done, but I think it should be fixed. My install.el package embryo tries to do that by providing a standard way for people to install a "package" and that procedure adds the necessary autoloads. > I'm not talking about a file are is part of Emacs, but one distributed > separately. How strongly should we adhere to that coding convention? Why should there be a difference ? After all, any unbundled package is just a potential bundled package. Stefan PS: Another circumstance where a package might get loaded implicitly is during byte-compilation. There's probably others.