From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: Pierre Neidhardt <ambrevar@gmail.com>
Cc: "Charles A. Roelli" <charles@aurox.ch>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: RE: EWW improvements: open in new buffer, tags, quickmarks, search engines, ...
Date: Thu, 3 May 2018 08:12:08 -0700 (PDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <5f2060ee-a87e-4e35-b977-af52e00e60b9@default> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87r2mtqle4.fsf@gmail.com>
> >> As far as I understand, Emacs native bookmarks won't work with EWW.
> >> `M-x bookmark-set' complains the the EWW buffer does not point to a
> >> real file.
> >
> > No, normal Emacs bookmarks do not need a file as
> > target. Even vanilla Emacs can bookmark Dired and
> > Info nodes (albeit not so well). A bookmark handler
> > can do anything you want it to do.
>
> Can you explain how you bookmark an EWW buffer with Emacs
> vanilla bookmarks?
A new type of bookmark needs to be defined, with a handler
that "jumps" to the URL. Code from Bookmark+ or similar
could be used.
My point was that just to add EWW support for (real)
Emacs bookmarks it's not required to add all of Bookmark+
to Emacs. All that's needed are to define a format for
the bookmarks and define a hander function to jump to
such a bookmark.
In Bookmark+, the handler function is `bmkp-jump-eww',
and a bookmark with EWW format is made by function
`bmkp-make-eww-record'.
(defun bmkp-make-eww-record ()
"Make a record for an EWW buffer."
`(,(bmkp-eww-title)
(buffer-name . ,(bmkp-eww-new-buffer-name))
,@(bookmark-make-record-default 'NO-FILE)
(location . ,(bmkp-eww-url))
(handler . bmkp-jump-eww)))
The logic behind jumping to an EWW bookmark, and how
that is hooked into EWW is more complicated - see the
Bookmark+ code for how Bookmark+ does it.
> Besides it does not seem to effectively work with many other modes. For
> instance, bookmarking a *Help* buffer works at first glance, but Emacs
> fails to look read the bookmarks file upon restart.
Dunno what that means. But yes, vanilla Emacs needs
to have some support for bookmarking arbitrary buffers,
as does Bookmark+, or else it needs to at least have
support for bookmarking some specific kinds of
bookmarks (*Info*, *Help* or whatever).
But I believe that vanilla Emacs already does have
support for bookmarking some kinds of buffers, such
as Info and Dired. I don't recall really, but I was
thinking it does when I wrote that. Emacs added
bookmark field `location', for example, and its value
need not be a file name.
In any case, the infrastructure is there in vanilla
Emacs to do any of this.
My point was:
1. Bookmark+ is freely available. It can be
integrated into Emacs; and it already provides
EWW support.
2. It's not _necessary_ to integrate Bookmark+ to add
EWW support to Emacs. That could be done either
by just copying the Bookmark+ EWW-support code to
Emacs or by Emacs rolling its own support.
3. In reply to your statement that vanilla Emacs
requires that a bookmark target a file I replied
that I don't think that's true.
Grepping the Emacs source code for "'location"
shows only one use of that property, in
`gnus-summary-bookmark-jump', and I might be
reading that wrong, so I could be wrong about this.
There are other ways than property `location' to do
this, so grepping `location" (no preceding quote')
might tell more.
And I see that an Info bookmark records both the
Info file and the node (so it does record a file
name).
Grepping for `bookmark-default-handler' can also
tell us whether some bookmark types do not record
a file name. Maybe `Man-bookmark-jump'?
`doc-view-bookmark-jump'?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-05-03 15:12 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-04-16 10:26 EWW improvements: open in new buffer, tags, quickmarks, search engines, Pierre Neidhardt
2018-04-16 10:54 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-04-16 11:18 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2018-04-16 12:08 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-04-16 12:22 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2018-04-16 12:27 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-04-16 12:32 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-04-16 17:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-04-17 11:18 ` Charles A. Roelli
2018-04-17 19:18 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2018-04-24 5:56 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2018-04-24 14:50 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-04-24 17:57 ` The importance of secrecy (was: EWW improvements: open in new buffer, tags, quickmarks, search engines, ...) Stefan Monnier
2018-04-24 19:45 ` The importance of secrecy John Wiegley
2018-04-24 20:16 ` The importance of secrecy (was: EWW improvements: open in new buffer, tags, quickmarks, search engines, ...) Joost Kremers
2018-04-24 20:53 ` The importance of secrecy Stefan Monnier
2018-04-24 22:40 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-04-24 22:44 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-04-24 15:58 ` EWW improvements: open in new buffer, tags, quickmarks, search engines, T.V Raman
2018-04-25 6:48 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2018-04-25 15:25 ` T.V Raman
2018-04-25 16:25 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2018-04-25 23:36 ` T.V Raman
2018-04-26 12:46 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-04-24 16:24 ` Drew Adams
2018-04-25 7:00 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2018-04-25 12:30 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-04-25 15:29 ` Drew Adams
2018-05-03 6:52 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2018-05-03 6:54 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2018-05-03 15:12 ` Drew Adams [this message]
2018-04-24 16:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-04-25 6:32 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2018-04-25 15:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-04-25 16:13 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2018-04-25 16:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-04-17 19:01 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
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