From: Jim Porter <jporterbugs@gmail.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: me@xenu.pl, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] Option to kill `emacs --daemon' when closing the last client frame
Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2021 13:38:43 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <5ea58a3e-031c-9483-80af-e8e8e243ea65@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83o87h7e8l.fsf@gnu.org>
On 10/21/2021 11:41 PM, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
>> Cc: me@xenu.pl, emacs-devel@gnu.org
>> From: Jim Porter <jporterbugs@gmail.com>
>> Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2021 19:42:23 -0700
>>
>> I hope an example will illustrate what I mean[1]. I start with two
>> terminals open, A and B[2]. In terminal A, I run `emacs -nw foo.txt'. In
>> terminal B, I run `emacsclient -nw -c bar.txt'. Now, suppose I want to
>> stop editing foo.txt in terminal A and go back to doing something else.
>> I'd type `C-x C-c', but then my emacsclient in terminal B will close too.
>
> No, it should say the session has client, and ask for confirmation.
>
> You also have C-z to temporarily suspend the session on A.
Right. I glossed over those parts in an attempt to keep my explanation
concise.
This was just an example to show how `emacsclient
--alternate-editor=emacs' requires the initial `emacs' process to live
as long as all the other clients. This isn't a bug, just an illustration
of a case where I prefer the way `emacs --daemon' works.
>> However, using the daemon configuration with ALTERNATE_EDITOR="", I
>> could run `emacsclient -nw -c ...' in each terminal. Then when I type
>> `C-x C-c' in terminal A, it only kills that client, not the daemon
>> process. I can then continue to edit in terminal B without interruption.
>>
>> Of course, this isn't a bug, it's just how emacs and emacsclient work
>> together when not using `emacs --daemon'. It just turned out to be
>> inconvenient for how I use Emacs, so I've moved to using `emacs
>> --daemon' instead.
>
> Which is exactly why we provided the daemon mode, so I see no problem
> here, I see a solution for a particular class of use patterns.
Agreed. There's nothing *wrong* with this behavior per se; I was just
trying to explain why I prefer how `emacs --daemon' works for my use
pattern.
- Jim
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-10-23 20:38 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-10-20 4:20 [RFC] Option to kill `emacs --daemon' when closing the last client frame Jim Porter
2021-10-20 4:36 ` Tomasz Konojacki
2021-10-20 20:07 ` Jim Porter
2021-10-21 6:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-22 2:42 ` Jim Porter
2021-10-22 6:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-23 20:38 ` Jim Porter [this message]
2021-10-20 12:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-21 3:43 ` Jim Porter
2021-10-21 7:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-22 2:58 ` Jim Porter
2021-10-22 19:51 ` Gregor Zattler
2021-10-23 6:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-23 7:45 ` Gregor Zattler
2021-10-23 8:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-23 18:41 ` Gregor Zattler
2021-10-25 6:11 ` Jean Louis
2021-10-25 17:18 ` Jim Porter
2021-10-22 11:58 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-10-24 21:49 ` Jim Porter
2021-10-25 6:19 ` Jean Louis
2021-10-25 18:06 ` Jim Porter
2021-10-23 19:57 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-10-24 11:54 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-10-24 15:17 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-11-08 5:13 ` chad
2021-10-25 6:20 ` Jean Louis
2021-10-25 7:37 ` Gregory Heytings
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2021-10-25 22:38 Peter Oliver
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