From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Phil Sainty Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [PATCH] Enhance the use of prefix arguments when filling text Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2016 23:33:39 +1300 Message-ID: <5dc78c51-c472-9a9d-f933-0804c5e19ea8@orcon.net.nz> References: <83k2c8di9r.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1479033261 3735 195.159.176.226 (13 Nov 2016 10:34:21 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2016 10:34:21 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.4.0 To: "emacs-devel@gnu.org" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Nov 13 11:34:17 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1c5s6k-0005cS-H0 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 13 Nov 2016 11:33:54 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33138 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1c5s6k-0006iY-Ma for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 13 Nov 2016 05:33:54 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:49540) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1c5s6e-0006hL-EO for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Nov 2016 05:33:49 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1c5s6b-0003ko-BA for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Nov 2016 05:33:48 -0500 Original-Received: from [219.88.242.62] (port=58286 helo=mail.orcon.net.nz) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1c5s6a-0003kZ-Qx for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Nov 2016 05:33:45 -0500 Original-Received: from [192.168.20.100] ([150.107.172.177]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.orcon.net.nz (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-9.4) with ESMTP id uADAXd1Z048687 for ; Sun, 13 Nov 2016 23:33:39 +1300 In-Reply-To: <83k2c8di9r.fsf@gnu.org> X-Bayes-Prob: 0.0001 (Score 0: No Bayes scoring rules defined, tokens from: outbound) X-CanIt-Geo: ip=150.107.172.177; country=NZ; region=Bay of Plenty Region; city=Tauranga; latitude=-37.6686; longitude=176.2664; http://maps.google.com/maps?q=-37.6686,176.2664&z=6 X-CanItPRO-Stream: base:outbound X-Canit-Stats-ID: 02S7mxDqj - 363e1c5bf422 - 20161113 X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 219.88.242.62 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:209368 Archived-At: On 13/11/16 00:55, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > A few comments below. I'll make these changes for the next revision, thanks. > So why isn't the default 'hybrid'? It sounds like a more > backward-compatible setting to me. Yes indeed, but it's also a weird setting in that different numbers have completely different meanings, so I was a bit loathe to make it the default. It's not a very intuitive use of the 0-9 numeric prefix unless you already know why it works that way. My thinking was that people who tended to use, say, M-1 M-q to justify text would immediately notice the change and quickly find their way to the new option by looking at C-h k M-q (docstrings not yet updated in this patch) or the NEWS file, and quickly rectify the situation one way or another; whereas for everyone else it seemed nicer to me if the default behaviour was the more consistent one. I don't feel too strongly about it, so I'm perfectly happy to make the hybrid setting the default if people think it's for the best. -Phil