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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:307098 Archived-At: On Tue, 2023-06-20 at 19:14 +0300, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > From: Konstantin Kharlamov > > Cc: dsmasterson@gmail.com, arne_bab@web.de, ams@gnu.org, luangruo@yahoo= .com, > > =C2=A0 philipk@posteo.net, emacs-devel@gnu.org > > Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2023 18:45:03 +0300 > >=20 > > > I already said I didn't think this was a good idea, and explained why > > > I thought so. > >=20 > > You said you afraid some information will be lost. I explained that it > > won't. > > You didn't provide any counter-arguments, so I kind of hoped it is clea= r at > > this > > point that it will only bring benefit. If you are referring to somethin= g I > > didn't answer, please point that out, because to my knowledge I replied= to > > everything. >=20 > If you carefully re-read what I wrote about those suggestions, you > will see that the issue is exhausted from my POV. Sorry, I am not the best person to read for cues between the lines, if that= 's what you meant. You explained my suggestion has a problem, I disproved that= . As far as I understand you just do not want to discuss this issue (not because= it's wrong or something, but because you just don't have the motivation). It's o= kay. I think at this point I should ask if there any other person who can apply = the change to the docs who I can discuss it with, although to be honest I'm kin= d of exhausted too.