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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:250262 Archived-At: > this is so different from the raisons d'=C3=AAtre for Emacs that are bein= g > discussed in the other thread that I felt that it would be better to > create a new thread to discuss it... >=20 > This is a section from rms's "EMACS: The Extensible, Customizable > Display Editor", published in 1981 - > paper.html*SEC29__;Iw!!GqivPVa7Brio!M-U6Wbp7ap79xOWTYQLSiCWp_QLsdmvU- > rj-VZZ2gQwdJVxybVBOv-5WDb6V7w-R$ >: A worthwhile addition to the discussion. Thx.