From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Rustom Mody Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: beginner questions Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2013 07:34:55 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5b95e531-0b04-443a-9324-9335f7cffebf@googlegroups.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1380724519 21241 80.91.229.3 (2 Oct 2013 14:35:19 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2013 14:35:19 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Oct 02 16:35:23 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VRNWL-0004hk-Bc for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 02 Oct 2013 16:35:21 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36398 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VRNWK-000442-VQ for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 02 Oct 2013 10:35:20 -0400 X-Received: by 10.224.93.19 with SMTP id t19mr5699959qam.3.1380724495974; Wed, 02 Oct 2013 07:34:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.50.22.35 with SMTP id a3mr120883igf.17.1380724495918; Wed, 02 Oct 2013 07:34:55 -0700 (PDT) Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!q9no1235993qas.0!news-out.google.com!9ni3043qaf.0!nntp.google.com!q9no1235983qas.0!postnews.google.com!glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help In-Reply-To: Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com; posting-host=59.95.10.246; posting-account=mBpa7woAAAAGLEWUUKpmbxm-Quu5D8ui Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 59.95.10.246 User-Agent: G2/1.0 Injection-Date: Wed, 02 Oct 2013 14:34:55 +0000 Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:201525 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:93794 Archived-At: On Wednesday, October 2, 2013 6:26:06 AM UTC+5:30, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > Finally switched to vi. It showed me: > > > [[http://cs.brown.edu/people/pw/papers/monist.ps<200e>][Philosophical diffs between OOp and FP]] > > > > 200e??? What the hell... > > > Indeed, as the display engine becomes more powerful over time, the > general rule gets broken more and more often. Unicode is a source of > lots of problems along this way (e.g. with all the barely visible > characters such as the one above, as well as all the "different > character, but displays identically"). There are some libraries that > try to help with this, e.g. uni-confusable (in GNU ELPA), but it's > a hard problem because there is no single "right thing to do". Thanks Stefan. I appreciate that choosing the right action is probably very hard. I was just pointing out that your statement: What you see is all there is to see seems to be eminently suitable for an editor (as against say a browser, a word-processor etc) and it would be a shame if emacs started breaking that rule more than necessary.