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From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: Yuri Khan <yuri.v.khan@gmail.com>, James Cloos <cloos@jhcloos.com>
Cc: "Alfred M. Szmidt" <ams@gnu.org>,
	Stefan Kangas <stefan@marxist.se>,
	Emacs developers <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: RE: Modernize frame-title-format: "%b - GNU Emacs"
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2020 12:09:29 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5b913ec6-60d2-4fec-b12c-74d0f47456dd@default> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAP_d_8W39QmeTdeRrrZPRkmUP6wH5QSYn6=5ZV_0RE9pn9_tSA@mail.gmail.com>

> > the icon that the wm outs before the text already shows that it is
> > gnu emacs.
> 
> Not all wms display an icon. Also, I’m not sure if screen readers for
> visually impaired users do anything useful with the icon; in contrast,
> I’m pretty sure the application name in the title will get read.

Those are two good points, neither of which occurred to me.

But I would expect those to be minority cases.  (I could
be wrong, especially about the icon case.)

The discussion is about the _default_ formatting.
Users can configure frame-title formatting as they like.

Perhaps Emacs could either (1) automatically check for
the app icon, and do something to mitigate its absence,
or (2) make it especially easy for users to do so (e.g.
by providing an alist variable with keys being
`system-type' symbols.



  reply	other threads:[~2020-08-28 19:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 95+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-08-26 22:09 Modernize frame-title-format: "%b - GNU Emacs" Stefan Kangas
2020-08-26 22:37 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-08-26 23:12   ` Drew Adams
2020-08-27  5:28 ` Yuri Khan
2020-08-27  5:55   ` Stefan Kangas
2020-08-27  6:56     ` Yuri Khan
2020-08-27 14:52       ` Stefan Monnier
2020-08-27 15:04         ` tomas
2020-08-27 15:17           ` Stefan Monnier
2020-08-27 16:18       ` Stefan Kangas
2020-08-27 17:02         ` Yuri Khan
2020-08-27 17:28         ` Colin Baxter
2020-08-28  0:17       ` Wayne Harris via Emacs development discussions.
2020-08-28  4:44         ` Yuri Khan
2020-08-28  8:56           ` Ulrich Mueller
2020-08-28 19:03           ` Drew Adams
2020-08-28 19:55             ` Yuri Khan
2020-08-28 20:36               ` Drew Adams
2020-08-28 20:40                 ` Thibaut Verron
2020-08-28 21:18                   ` Drew Adams
2020-08-29  8:39                 ` Yuri Khan
2020-08-29 16:35                   ` Drew Adams
2020-08-29 17:01                     ` Thibaut Verron
2020-08-29 18:25                     ` Yuri Khan
2020-08-29 20:19                       ` Drew Adams
2020-08-27  6:32 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-08-27  7:20   ` Stefan Kangas
2020-08-27  8:00     ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-08-27  8:03       ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-08-27 14:35       ` Colin Baxter
2020-08-27 14:59       ` Stefan Kangas
2020-08-27 15:39         ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-08-28  1:04     ` James Cloos
2020-08-28  4:46       ` Yuri Khan
2020-08-28 19:09         ` Drew Adams [this message]
2020-08-28 19:22           ` Colin Baxter
2020-08-28 20:07             ` Drew Adams
2020-08-28  9:18       ` Stefan Kangas
2020-08-28 13:00         ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-08-29 23:08         ` James Cloos
2020-08-28 19:29       ` Tassilo Horn
2020-08-27  6:52 ` tomas
2020-08-27  9:07 ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-08-27  9:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-08-27 17:06   ` Pip Cet
2020-08-27 17:11     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-08-27 17:36       ` Robert Pluim
2020-08-27 18:08         ` Drew Adams
2020-08-27 17:27 ` Ulrich Mueller
2020-08-27 17:52   ` Drew Adams
2020-08-28 22:06 ` Drew Adams
2020-08-28 23:39   ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-08-29  1:20     ` Stefan Kangas
2020-08-30 23:59 ` Stefan Kangas
2020-08-31  7:58   ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-08-31 14:19   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-08-31 14:46     ` Stefan Kangas
2020-08-31 14:52       ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-08-31 15:17       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-08-31 15:48         ` Stefan Kangas
     [not found] <<CADwFkmnhA7TNqVpgG3jvPL+_33gYRwSK0z2ddvDpYXUu9qw-EQ@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found] ` <<E1kBBSl-0007bb-1K@fencepost.gnu.org>
     [not found]   ` <<CADwFkmmP_CwHk48=v2YQVG3ODMQsBjcqqnGU_8H-pMsw_4irrw@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]     ` <<E1kBCpo-0006ol-R1@fencepost.gnu.org>
     [not found]       ` <<E1kBCsX-00049o-5Z@fencepost.gnu.org>
2020-08-27 15:05         ` Drew Adams
     [not found]       ` <<CADwFkmn2mJ2Mns3qyLUa-uWjOEB6zpSB=x3M9nK8q5gidn6iPg@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]         ` <<E1kBJzg-0001FK-Eb@fencepost.gnu.org>
2020-08-27 15:51           ` Drew Adams
2020-08-27 15:59             ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-08-27 16:42               ` Thibaut Verron
2020-08-27 17:23                 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-08-27 17:50                   ` Thibaut Verron
2020-08-27 18:15                     ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-08-27 19:13                       ` Thibaut Verron
2020-08-27 19:20                         ` Yuri Khan
2020-08-27 17:49             ` Michael Albinus
2020-08-27 18:10               ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-08-27 18:19                 ` Michael Albinus
2020-08-27 18:10               ` Drew Adams
2020-08-27 18:22                 ` Michael Albinus
     [not found]             ` <<87a6yg9dyq.fsf@gmx.de>
     [not found]               ` <<E1kBMLt-00033R-SA@fencepost.gnu.org>
2020-08-27 18:14                 ` Drew Adams
2020-08-27 18:19                   ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-08-27 18:30                     ` Michael Albinus
     [not found]             ` <<<87a6yg9dyq.fsf@gmx.de>
     [not found]               ` <<<E1kBMLt-00033R-SA@fencepost.gnu.org>
     [not found]                 ` <<5f644f03-df12-4af0-8bd7-46152372df72@default>
     [not found]                   ` <<E1kBMUM-0003xd-MI@fencepost.gnu.org>
2020-08-27 18:34                     ` Drew Adams
2020-08-27 18:51                       ` Michael Albinus
2020-08-27 20:01                         ` Drew Adams
     [not found]     ` <<m3sgc7mvh8.fsf@carbon.jhcloos.org>
     [not found]       ` <<CADwFkmkOjpGh-=FKXkuX31Hcuzku3=QdHHXzRvtWs6gEkpAN1Q@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]         ` <<E1kBdzV-0006sF-Ha@fencepost.gnu.org>
2020-08-28 19:16           ` Drew Adams
2020-08-31  5:26             ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-08-31  7:34               ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-09-01 18:23                 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-08-31 12:02               ` Colin Baxter
     [not found] ` <<83y2m01me0.fsf@gnu.org>
2020-08-27 15:10   ` Drew Adams
2020-08-27 15:14     ` tomas
2020-08-27 15:24       ` Drew Adams
2020-08-27 16:00         ` tomas
     [not found] ` <<CADwFkmk1dtqB8jjSgUHY0u0cetCUkhsDLTWF7JFT+8dxiAa3WA@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]   ` <<83y2lux5hm.fsf@gnu.org>
2020-08-31 14:53     ` Drew Adams
2020-08-31 20:00       ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-09-01  3:22         ` Stefan Monnier
     [not found]         ` <b4cc3f5f-ef29-4b2c-b7f3-0a2572cd5869@default>
     [not found]           ` <alpine.NEB.2.22.394.2009011047360453.11413@sdf.lonestar.org>
2020-09-01 14:54             ` Drew Adams
2020-09-01 17:00               ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-09-01 20:31                 ` Stefan Monnier

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