From: Adam Porter <adam@alphapapa.net>
To: jschmidt4gnu@vodafonemail.de
Cc: adam@alphapapa.net, emacs-devel@gnu.org, yantar92@posteo.net
Subject: Re: Storing sensitive data indefinitely in variables or buffers: Whether and how to fix?
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2023 15:47:39 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <5b541bf1-1d13-ac8e-a91c-e1b238cc6f84@alphapapa.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d6182b7a-d06f-9f3a-719c-7fd3c0bdd435@vodafonemail.de>
Thanks to all for the discussion on this thread.
IMHO expiry is an orthogonal issue to, at least, the kind of backend
data storage/retrieval library I'm asking for. I think it should be up
to the application to prune the data according to its needs. The
storage API should simply save and return data to the application. So
if the application wants to expire some data, it should retrieve the
collection, discard elements it doesn't need anymore, and rewrite the
collection using the library's API.
plstore looks like an interesting library, but even that looks like more
than the simple solution I'm wishing for. I'm not sure that, as an
application author, I should need to care about which keys in a record
are encrypted or not. I just want to do something simple and Lispy, like:
(alist-get "@alphapapa:matrix.org" (secure-storage 'ement-sessions))
To get my Matrix session's data. Or:
(map-nested-elt (secure-storage 'ement-sessions)
'("@alphapapa:matrix.org" token))
to get that session's token. And then:
(setf (map-nested-elt (secure-storage 'ement-sessions)
'("@alphapapa:matrix.org" token)) "foobarbaz")
to write the data to the secure storage. And then the secure-storage
library should automatically handle the encryption/decryption,
filesystem location, backend format, prompting the user for a key and/or
caching it appropriately, etc.
I think this is the simplest kind of API that could be useful to
applications--and it would be really useful.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-06-01 20:47 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-05-30 21:25 Storing sensitive data indefinitely in variables or buffers: Whether and how to fix? Jens Schmidt
2023-05-31 8:02 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-05-31 16:39 ` Adam Porter
2023-05-31 18:17 ` tomas
2023-06-01 6:34 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-06-01 6:51 ` tomas
2023-06-01 7:11 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-05-31 19:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-01 6:48 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-06-01 7:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-01 7:29 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-06-01 7:33 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-01 7:34 ` tomas
2023-05-31 19:37 ` Jens Schmidt
2023-06-01 6:42 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-06-01 20:10 ` Jens Schmidt
2023-06-01 20:47 ` Adam Porter [this message]
2023-06-02 6:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-04 23:47 ` Adam Porter
2023-06-05 2:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-31 12:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
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