From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Jean-Christophe Helary Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: VC menu ? Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2017 00:09:44 +0900 Message-ID: <5F76B180-A82C-4C13-A706-DA849CF0EEE6@gmail.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 10.3 \(3273\)) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1499353804 20793 195.159.176.226 (6 Jul 2017 15:10:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2017 15:10:04 +0000 (UTC) To: Emacs-Devel devel Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jul 06 17:10:00 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dT8Pk-00054P-Nr for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 06 Jul 2017 17:09:56 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51913 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dT8Pq-0007xN-5U for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 06 Jul 2017 11:10:02 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:54594) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dT8Pf-0007xC-GC for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Jul 2017 11:09:57 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dT8Pc-000622-Rc for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Jul 2017 11:09:51 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-pf0-x22d.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400e:c00::22d]:34645) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dT8Pc-00061f-Mh for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Jul 2017 11:09:48 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-pf0-x22d.google.com with SMTP id q85so2410761pfq.1 for ; Thu, 06 Jul 2017 08:09:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:date:references :to:in-reply-to:message-id; bh=VFvcdUT6P+hACyjFPyjD1p0CEfcDjtv9Nnmd4NSRHLw=; b=iCrlK20xa02xXyp4Gvp3pFYcCfP6PPlqNLn//D7z1TgHkxcMxAagTJaOUcHpKyQvkj JAwrTC780UgSGcxdq1g2Bhqfxx715A5BjYLbM5sh9N2LSfST3RGPMG5CTFrwybER2WPe cOz5/ju3DYVDdjcdP2tRyXflTGDM7WS/uW82o8WLmD9xmQunHTm3qS5dxHP9h7u5SZpg xi9GIk5Iw+jop1R0hWWJqt0YwOq8rfk+QwhkFdmrXp2bgCsyLRNATOAJxFCstih14ziO iIJ6ryBjCEsmoEjtwLhoh2S+2h3Z5i2GNTco9AUcltptFjVV0L/PzmYUSYlOu86goPsF Ui7g== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version :subject:date:references:to:in-reply-to:message-id; bh=VFvcdUT6P+hACyjFPyjD1p0CEfcDjtv9Nnmd4NSRHLw=; b=LgWI81Ik3objCQhf5nCXHOi+jRCWr4iL1qBaAPT7E85szUTcoS7ZQrmPAClbpgYDf9 pVNwthhgYobAO2ui1lYXYztpiFduy2AMgwwiIsClLglfic3/2mSFBvqKIWopzxWalwex b8SPXU3kKCMAkZHa8Ws1xBUph+9Ka2XM0UoosncDT+EEwbqVHuxw42olyXyXwPsqBRa5 rX/kJRLfQxImG3xkX+/ZdLqGx7GtjLnS0A7FjHqHfjuYEWatMT8G7kNR2laypGJbnOkO ZmySdOLmKlNDGM6LYgTu/txCf0SiO9xEM0jgNJv5OrTJxdRHJ3RLlgk/ATZnSZ9OoD/0 I6/w== X-Gm-Message-State: AIVw111ObOFPlguig2H9UyR78Qp3KVBMM6cn9qw8+B0+1NtD1BkkD5s4 5EwIpuJoHvrh906GPaM= X-Received: by 10.99.44.206 with SMTP id s197mr26947775pgs.116.1499353787589; Thu, 06 Jul 2017 08:09:47 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from [192.168.24.55] (pl2587.ag0304.nttpc.ne.jp. [128.53.196.27]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id z82sm1117359pfk.1.2017.07.06.08.09.46 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 06 Jul 2017 08:09:46 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3273) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:400e:c00::22d X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:216228 Archived-At: > On Jul 6, 2017, at 23:35, Stefan Monnier = wrote: >=20 >> Why is the VC menu hidden in the Tool menu when it's such an = important item >> in an emacs workflow? Couldn't we have VC as a standard base menu? >=20 > left-click on the "Git:master" thingy in the mode-line, Except when you work in a terminal. Besides, why would I even think of = doing that ? It's trivial *a posteriori* to provide "obvious" solutions, except that = if such solutions were really obvious, there would not be a problem in = the first place. Discoverability is a solution when you know what you = are looking for. Otherwise it's "exploration" and it's a totally = different thing. Jean-Christophe=20=