From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Jean-Christophe Helary Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Why are so many great packages not trying to get included in GNU Emacs? WAS: Re: Making Emacs more friendly to newcomers Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2020 20:57:17 +0900 Message-ID: <5F3B3FAB-BD1F-4B9C-A758-70C730528C44@traduction-libre.org> References: <863691n4xl.wl-me@enzu.ru> <87imhw431x.fsf@yahoo.com> <87mu78huhx.fsf_-_@yahoo.com> <87k12bdgx7.fsf@yahoo.com> <87r1wi7a8o.fsf@yahoo.com> <875zdteybt.fsf@runbox.com> <87368wrvf5.fsf@yahoo.com> <86k126d83n.wl-me@enzu.ru> <83pnbyckvv.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 13.4 \(3608.80.23.2.2\)) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="111186"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" To: Emacs developers Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Apr 26 13:58:05 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jSfvB-000Snq-5R for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 26 Apr 2020 13:58:05 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:57340 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jSfvA-0002yc-6r for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 26 Apr 2020 07:58:04 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:59184) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jSfuc-0002Q6-3F for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 26 Apr 2020 07:57:30 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jSfua-0000RI-MD for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 26 Apr 2020 07:57:29 -0400 Original-Received: from relay8-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.201]:39837) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jSfua-0000NL-1a for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 26 Apr 2020 07:57:28 -0400 X-Originating-IP: 128.53.235.90 Original-Received: from [10.0.1.13] (pl12634.ag0304.nttpc.ne.jp [128.53.235.90]) (Authenticated sender: jean.christophe.helary@traduction-libre.org) by relay8-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1BD411BF209 for ; Sun, 26 Apr 2020 11:57:21 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3608.80.23.2.2) Received-SPF: pass client-ip=217.70.183.201; envelope-from=jean.christophe.helary@traduction-libre.org; helo=relay8-d.mail.gandi.net X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/04/26 07:57:23 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 3.11 and newer [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 217.70.183.201 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:247828 Archived-At: > On Apr 26, 2020, at 0:31, Stefan Kangas wrote: >=20 > Stefan Kangas writes: >=20 >> - An unwillingness to assign copyright to the FSF, seemingly often = more due to >> inertia than any principled opposition. >=20 > Here's a first proposal to improve the situation: including the "Why > Assign?" text in the manual. Yes, the manual will be longer, but if > even one more person will read and understand the reasons behind the > FSF's insistence on assignments, I think it will be worth it. Please > see the attached. >=20 > Best regards, > Stefan Kangas > "each author ... provide+s" ? Jean-Christophe Helary ----------------------------------------------- http://mac4translators.blogspot.com @brandelune