> Could you elaborate? Actually, I think I’ll withdraw the over engineering tendency of mine here and rather refine: I believe it is appropriate to view project.el to have two different focuses here: one for the general idea and one minor mode (overloaded term, I know...) for vc. To help the out of the box experience with the project-vc I think either: - adding common patterns to project-vc-ignores instead of nil, to accommodate for improperly configured .gitignore - simply adding documentation emphasizing project-vcs reliance on .gitignore As such it could be neither project nor project-vc responsibility to add the plain version. Will project.el be split at some point? I mean moving vc things to vc. I for one (maybe only one) find the scope of project.el a bit confusing Theo