From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#7771: 23.1; can't turn off font-lock-mode globally Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 00:13:03 -0800 Message-ID: <5ED1D4DB7E46421D974A34CD844876E1@us.oracle.com> References: <4D20CF4D.9010403@noir.com> <4D21184F.2040303@noir.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1294043706 31325 80.91.229.12 (3 Jan 2011 08:35:06 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 08:35:06 +0000 (UTC) To: "'Glenn Morris'" , <7771@debbugs.gnu.org> Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jan 03 09:35:01 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PZfsX-0005VA-Jf for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 03 Jan 2011 09:35:01 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42241 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PZfhn-0006hx-Vz for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 03 Jan 2011 03:23:52 -0500 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=47242 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PZfhe-0006gc-U6 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 03 Jan 2011 03:23:44 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PZfhd-0006ZK-OV for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 03 Jan 2011 03:23:42 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:54014) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PZfhd-0006ZA-MB for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 03 Jan 2011 03:23:41 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PZfRV-0004wi-QG; Mon, 03 Jan 2011 03:07:01 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: "Drew Adams" Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2011 08:07:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 7771 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 7771-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B7771.129404199318971 (code B ref 7771); Mon, 03 Jan 2011 08:07:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 7771) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 Jan 2011 08:06:33 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PZfQz-0004vo-7d for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 03 Jan 2011 03:06:32 -0500 Original-Received: from rcsinet10.oracle.com ([148.87.113.121]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PZfQx-0004va-2C for 7771@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 03 Jan 2011 03:06:27 -0500 Original-Received: from rcsinet13.oracle.com (rcsinet13.oracle.com [148.87.113.125]) by rcsinet10.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.2/Switch-3.4.2) with ESMTP id p038DUug003029 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Mon, 3 Jan 2011 08:13:32 GMT Original-Received: from acsmt354.oracle.com (acsmt354.oracle.com [141.146.40.154]) by rcsinet13.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.2/Switch-3.4.1) with ESMTP id p0380ohM032730; Mon, 3 Jan 2011 08:13:30 GMT Original-Received: from abhmt008.oracle.com by acsmt354.oracle.com with ESMTP id 923276121294042396; Mon, 03 Jan 2011 00:13:16 -0800 Original-Received: from dradamslap1 (/10.159.216.63) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Mon, 03 Jan 2011 00:13:16 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5994 Thread-Index: Acuq7kzx6DJ2jXGBRx66qz7u0OlliQALSv6w X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Resent-Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2011 03:07:01 -0500 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:43034 Archived-At: > compile (and grep) require font-lock to work. They did not used to require font locking. This is a regression, a feature loss, if users are deprived of the Emacs `grep' and `compile' commands if they simply turn off font-locking. The added benefit users get from font-lock should just be a plus, not a requirement. With font-lock turned off we should just not show any font-lock highlighting, nothing more. Font lock was finally turned on by default globally (a change I support strongly). But that should just be the _default_ behavior. Font lock should not be required in order to compile or grep. As the person who first added regexp highlighting to the Emacs `grep' command (my version), I know it is a definite plus. But the implementation of the `grep' and `compile' commands should not _require_ font locking for users to be able to use the commands for their most important purpose.