From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Mattias =?UTF-8?Q?Engdeg=C3=A5rd?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#24902: 25.1; C-x = for Unicode Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2022 19:00:21 +0100 Message-ID: <5EA6B0F8-93CC-43DD-B4BE-8109FBA68722@acm.org> References: <87a6fl5w11.fsf@gnus.org> <14F24EE3-901E-4622-8210-6C4F2134E9BA@acm.org> <87czkh1jqo.fsf@gnus.org> <87pmoh3xdk.fsf@gnus.org> <877dap3uea.fsf@gnus.org> <4CEFB383-E7C8-4AA8-9B43-6267E5523DC3@acm.org> <87zgnjhing.fsf@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 14.0 \(3654.120.0.1.13\)) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="40816"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen , Ulrich Windl , 24902@debbugs.gnu.org To: Robert Pluim Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Jan 25 19:02:14 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nCQ8z-000APH-Ml for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 25 Jan 2022 19:02:13 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:55882 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nCQ8y-000102-PR for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 25 Jan 2022 13:02:12 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:58094) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nCQ83-0000bj-Fl for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Jan 2022 13:01:16 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:57090) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nCQ7q-0004Xu-Ha for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Jan 2022 13:01:14 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nCQ7q-0003wy-GK for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Jan 2022 13:01:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Mattias =?UTF-8?Q?Engdeg=C3=A5rd?= Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2022 18:01:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 24902 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: wontfix Original-Received: via spool by 24902-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B24902.164313363513378 (code B ref 24902); Tue, 25 Jan 2022 18:01:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 24902) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Jan 2022 18:00:35 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49993 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nCQ7P-0003TP-Bq for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 25 Jan 2022 13:00:35 -0500 Original-Received: from mail1448c50.megamailservers.eu ([91.136.14.48]:52140 helo=mail265c50.megamailservers.eu) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nCQ7M-0003Hy-3g for 24902@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 25 Jan 2022 13:00:34 -0500 X-Authenticated-User: mattiase@bredband.net DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=megamailservers.eu; s=maildub; t=1643133624; bh=bwraHzplXj4hdpRCRc4I3YANLwWT1o+aQA0QYPSeCOE=; h=Subject:From:In-Reply-To:Date:Cc:References:To:From; b=U1iaCT+3hVhfL+hZ1tU4PmPqnBXlDH09TbZZWji04Qbl4Hj3SV2uB4CZ6Kmo+6Ebj KtgKaJwoNNAI5wLYLxBuIs885MVBlN59BU/D+ufPJ/APftoNVY8M3nr4IesrMiwKkz vFdmGpVVguVqJFL+PMdH53WSgtyHhuO/Z4XZ6Uuc= Feedback-ID: mattiase@acm.or Original-Received: from smtpclient.apple (c-b952e353.032-75-73746f71.bbcust.telenor.se [83.227.82.185]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail265c50.megamailservers.eu (8.14.9/8.13.1) with ESMTP id 20PI0Lwb029779; Tue, 25 Jan 2022 18:00:23 +0000 In-Reply-To: <87zgnjhing.fsf@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3654.120.0.1.13) X-CTCH-RefID: str=0001.0A742F22.61F03AB8.0114, ss=1, re=0.000, recu=0.000, reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 X-CTCH-VOD: Unknown X-CTCH-Spam: Unknown X-CTCH-Score: 0.000 X-CTCH-Flags: 0 X-CTCH-ScoreCust: 0.000 X-Origin-Country: SE X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:225207 Archived-At: 25 jan. 2022 kl. 17.41 skrev Robert Pluim : > I remember there was a very large amount of back-and-forth about the > exact output that would be enabled by `what-cursor-show-names', as > people were very sensitive to the exact information presented. Yet > here you've essentially flipped it to t for everybody, which will > inevitably result in complaints. It's a rather separate discussion. (Those most attached to the old = appearance are long-time users who know very well how to customise it, = and it's good if new users get the better design by default.) Let's = focus on the new design right now. > I think the new format can be improved, as to my eyes it=CA=BCs = lacking in > visual separators between the fields I thought the all-caps Unicode character name did offset it rather well = against what followed, but perhaps adding a comma immediately after the = name, as in U+003B SEMICOLON, pt=3D72/145 col=3D0 would help?