From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#7367: 24.0.50; change logs in source code Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 09:03:46 -0800 Message-ID: <5DC618A15B0C46E4A3907092DCEAFA7E@us.oracle.com> References: <87oc9vg6c8.fsf@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1289498379 3741 80.91.229.12 (11 Nov 2010 17:59:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 17:59:39 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 7367@debbugs.gnu.org To: "=?UTF-8?Q?'=C5=A0tep=C3=A1n?= Nemec'" Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Nov 11 18:59:34 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PGbQr-0006XV-E7 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 11 Nov 2010 18:59:33 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55317 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PGbQq-0000MK-8h for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 11 Nov 2010 12:59:32 -0500 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=46859 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PGair-0005qI-Ce for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Nov 2010 12:14:07 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PGaik-0000v4-D9 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Nov 2010 12:14:03 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:41615) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PGaik-0000ut-B9 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Nov 2010 12:13:58 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PGaVH-00045B-Pg; Thu, 11 Nov 2010 12:00:03 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: "Drew Adams" Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 17:00:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 7367 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: wontfix Original-Received: via spool by 7367-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B7367.128949475115657 (code B ref 7367); Thu, 11 Nov 2010 17:00:03 +0000 Original-Received: (at 7367) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Nov 2010 16:59:11 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PGaUR-00044U-5W for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 11 Nov 2010 11:59:11 -0500 Original-Received: from rcsinet10.oracle.com ([148.87.113.121]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PGaUP-00044P-Rp for 7367@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 11 Nov 2010 11:59:10 -0500 Original-Received: from acsinet15.oracle.com (acsinet15.oracle.com [141.146.126.227]) by rcsinet10.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.2/Switch-3.4.2) with ESMTP id oABH3s9n001757 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Thu, 11 Nov 2010 17:03:55 GMT Original-Received: from acsmt353.oracle.com (acsmt353.oracle.com [141.146.40.153]) by acsinet15.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.2/Switch-3.4.1) with ESMTP id oABCUBO9001130; Thu, 11 Nov 2010 17:03:52 GMT Original-Received: from abhmt021.oracle.com by acsmt355.oracle.com with ESMTP id 770834601289495029; Thu, 11 Nov 2010 09:03:49 -0800 Original-Received: from dradamslap1 (/130.35.178.194) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Thu, 11 Nov 2010 09:03:47 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <87oc9vg6c8.fsf@gmail.com> Thread-Index: AcuBv581j5uxVDJJSpuajXl0OcqijAAAZdyg X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5994 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 12:00:03 -0500 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:41484 Archived-At: Hey, why not give users only Internet links for the source code too while you're at it? Why bother to give them the source code for local use? Better yet, just tell them to search the Internet for it. Change log info, like any info, can be of variable quality/utility. It is info about the source code, just like comments (and diffs) are, and as such it can be useful to at least some users. Just like comments, it can inform you about implementation and design logic - the intentions behind what is there currently. The point is not that all change logs provide great info; the point is that users deserve to have the info locally, whatever it is and however useful it might be. They should not be shoved off to search the Internet.